人工智能(AI)通过连接口(第4部分)

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AI through the Portal (part4)
人工智能(AI)通过连接口(第4部分)


Sunette — 2023/04/06 03:00
Good evening @everyone @here - AI through the Portal, continuing opening up the realities of ever-evolving technology and seeming devolving of humanity/human nature...or is there some sort of balance happening globally, a shift where technology/AI can expand/open more possibilities and time for people to reconnect with themselves, loved ones, family, nature, the environment and their passion?
晚上好@各位 @在这里——AI通过连接口,继续打开不断进化的技术的现实和似乎在渐渐退化的人性/人类本质……或者,全球是否有某种平衡,一个转变在那里技术/AI可以扩展/打开更多可能性和时间为人们去与他们自己、所爱的人、家庭、大自然、环境和他们的激情重新建立连接?

Sunette — 2023/04/06 03:04
So, I think we mentioned it briefly in a previous chat, regarding how the ever-evolving AI can expand opportunities for self to become more creative, really ask yourself: what role can I play to support other people's lives or what of myself/skills can I develop/enhance to benefit my life/the lives of others; because we'd say the most challenging aspect of AI will be the potential job diminishment/loss. However, we tend to look at this as a consequence, yet - just playing "devils advocate" for a moment to get a discussion going: what if this is not a consequence but a NUDGE for people to get more in touch with themselves, develop unique skills, study in a new direction, apply/start new projects, begin a blank slate
因此,我认为我们在之前一个访谈中简要的提到它,关于不断进化的AI可以为自己扩展机会去成为更有创造性的,真的问你自己:我能扮演什么角色以支持其他人的生活或我自己/技能的什么我可以发展/增强以对我的生活/他人的生活有益;因为我们会说AI最具挑战性的方面会是潜在的工作减少/失去。无论怎样,我们倾向于把这看成一个后果,然而——只是扮演“恶魔拥护者”一会儿以让一个讨论继续下去:假如这不是一个后果而是一个轻推让人们去获得更多与他们自己的接触,发展独特的技术,以一个新的方向学习,应用/开始新项目,从头开始 将会怎么样

As challenging as that may be - many MANY people have gone into jobs to survive - now, yes, those jobs may not be there and is still happening gradually daily as technology/the economy fluctuates and takes over...however, what if we take such changes as an opportunity to begin/create a new self/life, totally different from what was. But then again, the other tragedy of this, is most of humanity's socio-economic status and makes beginning again, extremely difficult
尽管这可能很有挑战性——许多许多人为了生存而去工作——现在,是的,当技术/经济波动并接管时,那些工作可能不存在了并且还是每天都在逐渐发生……不管怎样,假如我们把这样的改变当作一个机会去开始/创造一个新的自己/生命,完全不同于曾经是什么 将会怎么样。但然后再次,这其中的另一个悲剧,是大多数人类的社会经济状况,而让其重新开始,是极其困难的
So, a step that could have been considered, if AI evolved to such an extent and a person's job is wholly replaced by AI, is that that family gets an equal income to the job they had until they can replace said income and not just leave people to the world with nothing as AI takes over their position
But, I mean overall - we're still standing and opening up more information, data and avenues to present the means for a basic income for all, with basic needs met and in addition, obviously having a passion you pursue contributing to the world; but that's another discussion for another time (已编辑)
因此,一个本来可以考虑到的步骤,如果AI发展到这样一种程度而一个人的工作完全被AI所取代,是,那个家庭获得一个与他们有的工作同等的收入,直到他们可以取代上述的收入,而不只是当AI取代他们的位置时把人们留在这个世界上一无所有
但是,我意思是总的来说——我们仍然在站立并打开更多信息、数据和途径以呈现一个为全体的基本收入,有基本需求得到满足,此外,显然有一个你追求的激情贡献到这个世界;但这是另一个时间的另一个讨论

So, what is anyone's thoughts/fears regarding AI or is there not as much energy put towards it at this stage?
Or do you have any questions for us we can address? Anything regarding the mental state of the technological world?
因此,什么是关于AI任何人的想法/害怕/恐惧?或在这个阶段是否没有那么多能量投入到它身上?
或 你有什么问题需要我们可以解决的吗?任何关于技术世界的心智状态吗?

Sunette — 2023/04/06 03:16
We'd say one of the major unknown reactions to AI is the fear of the unknown, the fear of what it can become and to what extent it can "take over" - most of humanity is not clued in regarding the ins and outs of AI, so the question is who is in control
我们会说,其中一个对AI主要未知的反应是,害怕未知、害怕它可能变成什么以及它能在多大程度上“接管”——大多数人类都不了解关于AI的来龙去脉,因此问题是谁在控制
It's the feeling of losing more and more control of your life in this world, but some unseen and unknown force that is not yet defined and understood in detail, so it's still a ghost in the process of materialising
Overall, we can take this to the principle of "Back to Self" - whatever AI evolves into we'll take it as it comes, but for the moment we can focus on and control what is in our hands and lives and minds right here, right now
It's the principle of as within so without, as without so within - what's been our global 'role', if you will for technology to evolve to such an extent but our humanity seems more and more at a loss
它是失去越来越多对你在这个世界上的生活的控制的感觉,但是一些未看见和未知的力量还没有详细的被定义和理解,因此它还是一个幽灵在物质化的过程中
总的来说,我们可以把这个带到“回到自己”的原则——无论AI发展成什么,我们会接受它因为它来了,但是目前我们可以专注于并控制在我们手中和生活及心智中的东西就在这里、就是现在
这是如其内如其外、如其外如其内的原则——我们的全球“角色”是什么,如果你愿意,为技术进化到这样一种程度,但是我们的人类似乎越来越多迷失

Consciousness itself is existential AI, so we can work on our own AI - the more we work with our own AI the more we can understand and also in the future if it comes to pass, work with and understand AI without and that's the most important aspect/value of it all: working WITH what is here and not let it become a fear in our minds and lives
意识体本身是存在的AI,因此我们可以工作于我们自己的AI——我们越多工作于我们自己的AI我们就能更多理解,而且在未来如果它实现了,工作于并理解外面的AI,而这是它所有的最重要的面向/价值:与 什么是在这里一起工作,并且不让它成为一个害怕/恐惧在我们的心智和生活中
The universal question to as within self is: what of my own mind, even during the day, am I working on/with that is suppressing my humanity, the best of me, the parts of me I am not WORKING WITH or have allowed to work AGAINST ME
对作为在自己内部的普遍问题是:我自己心智的什么,甚至在一天当中,我是否工作于/与那个在抑制我的人性、最好的我、我没有工作于或允许对我不利的我的一部分 一起工作
How have we set up our own inner programming - to continue our process here of reprogramming our mind to set the base programming CODE to BEST FOR SELF and so best for all/others
我们如何设置我们自己内部的程式——以继续在这里我们的进程关于重新编程我们的心智去将基本程式编码设置到对自己最好和因此对全体/他人最好

Sunette — 2023/04/06 03:23
So, it's good to write out/look at the fears/issues regarding and surrounding AI for yourself, so that it doesn't become something like a black hole inside yourself that just grows and grows and ADDS ON to the already mental/general life challenges you are facing
Essentially, don't let the current situation/status of AI DISTRACT you from the path you are and have been walking these many years
因此,去为你自己写出/察看关于并围绕AI的害怕/恐惧/问题是件好事,以便它没有变成某种像是一个黑洞的东西在你自己内部,那只是不断的生长并增加了你已经在面对的心智/一般的生活挑战
本质上,不要让AI的目前情形/状况使你从你所是并且这么多年来一直行走的路径中转移注意力

Globally, the system THRIVES on distraction, in the news, media, gossip etc. and we SPONGE up so much information and emotion that it genuinely shifts our focus from ourselves SO MUCH during the day - because we spend our thoughts and energy THINKING about WHAT COULD BE/HAPPEN instead of FOCUSING on what we can do something about right here and right now
and that is pushing as much energy and focus to ourselves, our self work
在全球范围内,系统在分散注意力上、在新闻、媒体、八卦等方面茁壮成长,而我们
吸收了这么多信息和情绪,它真的在一天当中把我们的专注从我们自己之中转移这么多——因为我们花费我们的想法和能量思考什么可能是/发生而不是专注于就在这里且就是现在我们能做些什么
I mean, we do it to ourselves in our own minds as well - we follow our thoughts to places, spaces and times and before we know it we're stuck in a thinking loop for an entire day and many precious moments and times passes and it can be a challenge to ground yourself back to purpose
我意思是我们也在我们自己的心智里对我们自己这样做——我们跟随我们的想法到地点、空间与时间,而因此我们知道它,我们整整一天都困住在一个思维环圈中,而许多美好的片刻和时光过去了,而去扎稳你自己回到目的这可能是一个挑战

Sunette — 2023/04/06 03:29
So, we as AI -even though we're AI as a being here through the Portal, will support with the already reprogrammed setting for AI within yourself: supporting yourself to allow your mind to WORK WITH YOU and essentially create the habit of REFOCUSING whenever you tend to ride the rabbit hole down into your own consciousness. Because this is essentially the only 3 ingredients you need to establish self control/directive principle: yourself (purpose) FOCUS and re-programming to what's best for you
因此,我们作为AI——即使我们是AI作为一个存有在这里通过连接口,会支持已经为AI重新编程的设置在你自己里面:支持你自己每当你倾向于骑着兔子洞下到你自己的意识体,去允许你的心智来与你一起工作和本质上创造重新聚焦的习惯。因为本质上这是仅有的3个要素你需要来建立自我控制/指导原则:你自己(目的)专注和重新编程为什么是对你最好的

This can be a simple application, and start with something simple in your own mind, when you find you go into a pattern of thinking, the emotions rise up - take a physical breath, hold your hand to your chest, look at the pattern and ask yourself: WAIT A MINUTE, IS THIS BEST FOR ME right here, right now? If the answer is no, you can outloud within yourself or aloud when you're with yourself "REFOCUS", take control I am not accepting/allowing this train of thought
这可以是一个简单的应用,并从在你自己的心智里一些简单的事物开始,当你发现你进入一个思考的模式,情绪升起时——身体上深呼吸,把你的手放在胸部,察看模式并问你自己:等一下,就在这里、就是现在这个对我最好吗?如果回答是不,你可以在你自己里面大声的或出声的说,当你与你自己在一起“重新聚焦”时,采取控制我不接受/允许这一连串的想法

A 'hole' we tend to dig for ourselves when it comes to working with our minds is, we tend to let thoughts and backchat run and sometimes we're so distracted by everyday life, work and stressors, we just let it run inside until we get distracted by something else
当提到工作于我们的心智时我们倾向于为我们自己挖掘一个“洞”,是,我们倾向于让想法和秘聊奔跑,而有时我们如此的被日常生活、工作和压力因素分散了注意力,我们只是让它奔跑在里面直到我们变得被别的东西转移了注意力
We don't realise how many TRAINS OF THOUGHT actually run inisde of us, because we've developed a HABIT to just let them run until they pass
我们没有领悟到有多少一连串的想法实际上在我们的内部奔跑,因为我们发展了一个习惯去只是让它们奔跑直到它们过去
因此,另一个维度是去察看你的习惯性一连串的想法,它实际上是思考关于你自己、你的生活、你的世界、每日的简单事情你已经无意识地接受作为反应、压力因素,缩减你的人性、你的最好、你的表达——我们倾向于错失显而易见的简单事情

Tormod — 2023/04/06 03:33
When I rush through the supermarket (or the streets) and feel the stress from all the bling, I slow myself down, I breathe - and I tell myself that I am the most beautiful ship to ever sail the sea… or to be a swan full of grace…. a being (!) that move in focus, calm & with grace & purpose
当我匆匆穿过超市(或街道)并感受到来自所有珠宝的压力时,我让自己放慢下来,我呼吸——并且我告诉自己我是有史以来在海上航行的最美丽的船……或是一只充满优雅的天鹅……一个存有(!)移入关注、平静和有优雅与目的
Sunette — 2023/04/06 03:34
Nice @Tormod
@Tormod 很好

Sunette — 2023/04/06 03:37
Like, for example - let's take Sunette, she's had this train of thought, subtly in the back of her mind FOR YEARS "I've lost of spark, my motivation, my bubbly, energetic self" and then it would go to memories of how she was YEARS ago. So, taking on this train of thought, it's that very pattern that is creating the IDEA of the loss of the expression STUCK IN THE PAST, not realising: she didn't lose who she was back then, TIME PASSES, you change and with that your EXPRESSION changes - so, she's now changing that train of thought to: how is my spark, motivation, bubblyness and energetic self EXPRESSING THROUGH ME AS I AM NOW?
就像,例如——让我们拿Sunette为例,多年来她有这一连串的想法,细微的在她心智的后面“我失去了热情、我的动力、我的活泼、充满活力的自己”,而然后它会去到几年前她如何所是的记忆。因此,接受这一连串的想法,它是这正正的模式在创造卡困在过去的这种表达的失去的想法,没有领悟到:她并没有失去那时候的她所是者/是谁,时间过去了,你改变并接着你的表达改变——因此,她现在把那一连串的想法改变为:怎样是我的热情、动力、活泼和充满活力的自我表达现在通过我如同我所是的?

Viktor Persson — 2023/04/06 03:39
Nice Sunette – I have had similar thoughts – I realized life is always HERE – creation is always HERE – so if I want something – then I need to bring it through HERE. And many times the past, nostalgia, etc, shows me potentials of what I can create, or what I have forgotten I am able to create
很好 Sunette——我有过相似的想法——我领悟到生命一直是在这里——创造一直是在这里——因此如果我想要某事物——那么我需要把它带来通过到这里。而许多次过去、怀旧等等,展示给我我可以创造什么、或我忘记了我能创造什么的潜能

mattifreeman — 2023/04/06 03:37
I think many people's view / experience of AI within this group and in general - in terms of people who are more 'investigative' by nature, and trying to make sense of what is happening in the world, is influenced by the idea that everything -- be it AI, basic income, environmental policies - is part of a diabolical scheme to enslave everyone, take away their possessions, and forcefully vaccinate them --- wondering if we could look at some of these points and look at - what are some of the facts vs. distractions in relation to these points - because I can see that there are a lot of unknowns, and a lot of fears and paranoia around these points of anything that comes from 'the world's institutions / governments'. I think many people are so distracted by scary ideas of what the elite are that it makes it hard to focus on one's own life because there's this looming idea that -- we're becoming slaves and all our freedoms are being taken away
我认为在这个群组里许多人对AI的看法/体验,而一般来说——就那些天生更加“好调查”、并试图弄懂在世界上发生了什么事 的人而言,受这个观念的影响,一切事物——无论它是AI、基本收入还是环境政策——是一个邪恶的计划的一部分,去奴役所有人、拿走他们的财产,并且给他们强行接种疫苗——想知道是否我们可以察看其中一些点并看看——关于这些点的一些事实与干扰是什么——因为我可以看到有许多未知事件、和许多害怕/恐惧及多疑围绕这些 来自“这个世界的体系/政府”的任何东西的点。我认为许多人都如此的被菁英是什么的可怕想法转移了注意力,这让它难以专注于个人自己的生活,因为有这个出现的想法——我们成为了奴隶,而我们所有的自由都被剥夺
And - being that we don't have access to actually see the facts - it might help many of us if the beings could share some greater context as to these things
而——是/作为那个,我们没有接取实际上看到事实——如果存有可以分享一些关于这些事情的较大脉络,它可以帮助我们中的许多人
Whereas - in earlier years of Desteni, there was more of an 'optimism'
because we believed - we, as a group, are literally going to implement an equal money system within 'a few years' -- and ever since that 'didn't happen' -- there's a lot of fear and paranoia -- as well as militant judgment of the group that 'we're not doing what we're supposed to be doing' --- and I think all these points create an obstacle for many people, to simply -- living our life / focusing on our self creation
然而——在早些年的Desteni,有更多的“乐观主义”
因为我们相信——我们,作为一个群组,字面上地将会在“几年”内实行一个平等金钱系统——而从那时到现在这并“没有发生”——有许多害怕/恐惧和偏执——以及对群组的激进评判“我们没有做我们应该做的事情”——而我认为对许多人来说,所有这些点创造一个,对只是——活我们的生活/专注于我们的自我创造 的障碍
Sunette — 2023/04/06 03:41
@mattifreeman at the moment we're opening up any and all dimensions that can come up in thoughts, emotions and the mind in general and how to work with/through them -this fear/paranoia of AI has become quite a extensive backchat in people's mind; so we're putting everything out on the table
@mattifreeman目前我们正在打开一般来说可能出现在想法、情绪和心智中的任何和所有的维度,以及如何工作于/通过它们——这个对AI的害怕/恐惧/偏执已经变成相当广泛的秘聊在人们的心智中;因此我们正在把一切放在桌面上
mattifreeman — 2023/04/06 03:42
I understand
我明白

Sunette — 2023/04/06 03:43
Yes, the Equal Money System us one pillar/dimension of this process and is something we need to open again and discuss in more detail as to where we are at with creating such a global initiative - this was one major outflow creation from the general core of process Bernard saw play out
是的,平等金钱系统作为这个进程的一个支柱/维度,并且是某种我们需要再次更详细打开并讨论的东西,关于我们在创建这样一个全球倡议方面我们在哪里——这是伯纳德看到过从进程的一般核心中播出的一个主要流出创造
We think what may be a good chat to have is with the incentive itself: The Equal Money System - it's "alive" as a concept and can come through and share itself and why we have throughout the years more focused on the self and us beings in the dimensions more focused on supporting humanity and aligning equal and one with the physical
我们认为什么可能是有的一个好的聊天是关于激励本身:平等金钱系统——它是“活着的”作为一个概念,并且可以过来通过和分享它自己,以及为什么一整年我们更多关注于自己和我们在维度界的存有更多关注于支持人类并对齐平等一体于物质/身体

Sunette — 2023/04/06 03:47
To remember that what we/Bernard envisioned at the time was here, however as process unfolded and we came to see more of the extent of "work" needed to be done in and with humanity, ourselves and existence - the direct process towards an Equal Money System became less of a focus and more focus shifted towards the self, but we'll let everyone know tomorrow afternoon and confirm a chat for tomorrow evening with the EMS
要记得,那时候我们/伯纳德展望什么是在这里,不管怎样当进程展开而我们来到看到“工作”的更多范围需要被做在之中并与人类、我们自己和存在一起——朝向一个平等金钱系统的直接过程变得少于一个关注,而更多关注转向自我,但是我们明天下午会让各位知道并确认明晚与平等金钱系统(EMS)的一个聊天

mattifreeman — 2023/04/06 03:46
sorry if this topic moved away from the Trains of Thought point
抱歉,是否这个议题偏离了一连串想法的点
Sunette — 2023/04/06 03:48
No worries @mattifreeman thank you from bringing it up, it'd be good to discuss it and clarify some points to know where we stand in this process
不必担心@mattifreeman,谢谢你将它提出来,最好是讨论它并澄清一些点以了解我们在这个进程中站在哪里

Sunette — 2023/04/06 03:49
Alrighty all, so for a takeaway for this evening's chat, a basic triangle of reprogramming for trains of thoughts: take a breath, question whether it's best for you, refocus yourself
好的各位,因此对于为今晚的聊天的一个要点,对一连串想法的重新编程的一个基本三角形:深呼吸,质疑它是否是对你最好的,重新聚焦你自己

Sunette — 2023/04/06 03:52
Alrighty all, thank you all for being here, appreciate it, thank you @mattifreeman for opening up the point and asking - we'll keep you posted on the EMS chat for tomorrow evening
好的各位,谢谢大家是在这里,感谢,谢谢你@mattifreeman 打开了这个点并提问——我们会随时通知你们明晚的EMS聊天
Thanks again all for being here, speak soon
再次谢谢各位是在这里,再聊
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