存有體標識/肌肉溝通
发表于 : 周三 3月 23, 2016 4:21 pm
Fred 的肌肉溝通指導(Kinesiology)報告 - 怎樣把走進程的時間, 從 7 - 14年縮短 3年!
在這裏給大家介紹 Desteni進程的最新突破 - Kinesiology(利用身体肌肉來詢問怎樣能夠更有效地走自己的進程). 最多可以把走進程的時間, 從 7 - 14年, 縮短 3年. 以下是 Kim A. 給我做的報告給大家參考, 以便瞭解一下什麼是 Kinesiology, 它的功能是什麼, 能夠提供些什麼另類解決辨法等等.
Kinesiology 是Bernard 他們在 SRA(DIP-Pro 前身)初期極力推展的項目之一, 但因為我們太容易受到 心智的影響, 影響得出的結果, 所以現時在眾多人之中, 只有 Kim A. 和 Andrea R. 兩位女仕成功, 並且得到 Bernard 把自己的特徵訊號, 放進了她們的身体內. 效果就像, 我打個比方 - 像重點戰略轟炸一樣 - 集中在最重要和經常糾正失敗的點上, 並且給予最有效的解決方法.
[9:15:53 AM] kim amourette: hmm I'd need to have a list of points to test through Fred - in order to test which of those points would be priority
[9:16:15 AM] kim amourette: however I could see if something tests out in my material - just a moment
[9:16:22 AM] Fred C.: so I need to list you a list?
[9:16:47 AM] kim amourette: well if you are looking at specific topics that you're working with and you're wondering which of those is priority..
[9:17:32 AM] kim amourette: but I can test here - i also have a list
[9:17:41 AM] kim amourette: just one moment - toilet break!! brb!!
[9:17:50 AM] Fred C.: lol Ok, Thanks Kim!
[9:22:45 AM] kim amourette: ok i'm back
[9:24:27 AM] kim amourette: alright so priority - what tests out firstly is backchat
[9:24:32 AM] kim amourette: specifically in relation to yourself and others
[9:24:38 AM] kim amourette: this backchat is emotionally charged
[9:24:42 AM] kim amourette: specifically anger, frustration
Kim:
好的, 關於優先需要處理的點 - 測試顯示第一點是暗聊
特別關於自己與其他人的暗聊
是一種被情緒所激活的暗聊
特定來說來自憤怒和受挫/失敗
[9:24:49 AM] Fred C.: ok, yes!
[9:25:33 AM] Fred C.: I asked where this anger comes from, B. told me it's me spewing venoms to others through words
[9:26:01 AM] Fred C.: but I hv already changed and guard my mouth yet the angriness is still here with me
[9:26:33 AM] kim amourette: alright next thing that tests out is different emotions
Kim:
好的, 下一個重點是各種情緒
[9:26:48 AM] Fred C.: esp. with my mom, or when she's speak ironically
[9:26:55 AM] kim amourette: like scared, confused, bewildered, submissive, insecure, anxious, overwhelmed
[9:27:11 AM] kim amourette: and the anger/frustration would be an outflow from these ones
Kim:
像害怕, (混)亂, 不知所措, 服從, 不安感, 憂慮, (被)壓倒
而憤怒/失敗(受挫)源自上述的情緒
[9:27:20 AM] Fred C.: yes, most emotions stem from fear of death/pain
[9:27:37 AM] Fred C.: Oh! I didn't know that
[9:28:23 AM] kim amourette: alright, now these emotions of scared, confused, bewildered, submissive, insecure, anxious, overwhelmed is existing on an unconscious mind level within you - meaning that it is something you've copied from your parents, specifically your mother
[9:29:55 AM] kim amourette: and yes those fears is in relation to survival
Kim:
好的, 現在在你裏面, 這些害怕, (混)亂, 不知所措, 服從, 不安感, 憂慮, (被)壓倒情緒, 屬於無意識心智層面 - 意思是你從你父母處, 把它們複製過來, 特別來自你母親處.
[9:30:23 AM] Fred C.: sorry My mom just called me
[9:32:24 AM] kim amourette: alright now another thing that tests out is 'perceptions', specifically about yourself - meaning that you are having perceptions of yourself that are fuelling these emotional experiences of fear
Kim:
好的, 現在另一個測試得出的重點是 '感覺', 特關於自己的感覺 - 意思是你對自己的感覺, 在不斷燃起/導致出現這些害怕情緒
[9:32:30 AM] Fred C.: Ok, so now I know SF on my angriness and they come from scared
[9:32:57 AM] kim amourette: and these perceptions are filtered by emotions, memories, conversations with people, judgments and beliefs
[9:33:05 AM] kim amourette: 'filtered' meaning influenced by
Kim:
而且這些感覺被情緒, 記憶, 與別人的談話, 批判和信念所過濾
'過濾'的意思是受到影響
[9:33:47 AM] Fred C.: yes, I also have a lot of judgment against myself and others - almost on a physical level
[9:34:44 AM] kim amourette: so one of those filters is that there is a belief system in your mind that you are a good/bad person
[9:35:04 AM] kim amourette: meaning - that on a conscious mind level you believe yourself to be 'good', but on an unconscious mind level you see yourself as 'bad'
[9:35:33 AM] kim amourette: unconscious level meaning that it would be a belief that you copied from your parents
Kim:
所以其中一種過濾是在你心智裏的一個信念系統 - 你相信自己是一個好/壞人
意思是在有意識心智層面, 你相信自己是一個 '好人', 但在無意識層面, 你卻視自己為一個 '壞人'
無意識層面, 意思是你從父母處複製過來的信念
[9:35:41 AM | Edited 9:38:09 AM] Fred C.: It is surprisingly accurate and helpful!
[9:36:20 AM] kim amourette: ok yeah so you're dealing with a morality polarity there
[9:37:30 AM] kim amourette: there's also other beliefs testing out
[9:37:34 AM] kim amourette: I believe I am capable of anything I set my mind to
[9:37:40 AM] kim amourette: I believe I am different than other people
[9:38:01 AM] kim amourette: I believe I am wrong/right in most situations
[9:38:28 AM] kim amourette: i believe i am less intelligent than others
[9:38:45 AM] kim amourette: and that's all
Fred:
這真是驚訝地準確和有幫助!
Kim:
Ok 對啊, 所以你需要處理的, 是一個道德兩極化的點
測試到還有其他信念:
我相信(我的心智想得到的)我是無所不能的
我相信我是與別不同的
我相信我大部份時間都是錯/對的
我相信我比別人蠢
以上就是測試的結果
[9:38:56 AM] Fred C.: Thank you So so much Kim!!
[9:39:46 AM] kim amourette: and these are the beliefs you copied from your parents:
[9:39:47 AM] kim amourette: I believe I am different than other people
I believe I am wrong/right in most situations
[9:39:56 AM] kim amourette: the other ones, you created yourself
Kim:
以下是你從父母處複製過來的:
我相信我是與別不同的
我相信我大部份時間我都是錯/對的
其餘的都是你自己製造出來的.
[9:40:02 AM] Fred C.: Now how do I first stop these backchats???
[9:40:40 AM] kim amourette: and this belief is on a conscious mind level: I believe I am capable of anything I set my mind to
[9:40:55 AM] kim amourette: whereas this belief is on a subconscious mind level: i believe i am less intelligent than others
Kim:
而這種信念是在有意識層面: 我相信(我的心智想得到的)我是無所不能的
這種信念是在潛意識層面: 我相信我比別人蠢.
[9:41:06 AM] Fred C.: what does this one u just typed exactly means? could u elaborate a little bit?
[9:41:25 AM] Fred C.: capable of anything I set my mind
[9:41:25 AM] kim amourette: meaning that consciously you may believe yourself to be capable of anything you set your mind to -- yet subconsciously you actually believe yourself to be less intelligent than others
Kim:
意思是你在有意識層面, 相信自己(你心智想得到的)你是無所不能的 -- 然而潛意識地, 你實際上相信自己比別人蠢.
[9:41:46 AM] Fred C.: yes! I do hv these type of "conflict" inside me
[9:41:52 AM] kim amourette: it's like an ego point
Kim:
這就像一個自我意識/自大(Ego)點
[9:41:59 AM] Fred C.: ok, cool!
[9:42:17 AM] kim amourette: the ego point would be on the conscious mind level - but then subconsciously there's that belief that you're less intelligent
[9:43:34 AM] kim amourette: alright, so then in terms of the solution
[9:43:45 AM] kim amourette: first of all - does all of this information make sense to you so far?
Kim:
這個自我意識/自大點在有意識心智層面 - 但潛意識地, 你卻相信自己比別人蠢
好的, 至於解決辨法
首先 - 至今為止, 所有這些資料對你來說合理嗎?
[9:44:00 AM] Fred C.: With all these ingredients I can write a few MC to change me, yes! yes! and yes! very very much
[9:44:27 AM] Fred C.: because most of them are sub and un-conscious level, so I didn't notice them consciously / clearly
[9:45:44 AM] kim amourette: alright so in terms of your priority with what to look at/work on
[9:45:48 AM] kim amourette: it isn't the backchat/anger
[9:45:58 AM] kim amourette: it's more the fears as well as the morality points
[9:46:31 AM] kim amourette: and also that polarity of being in ego on the one hand - and on the other hand believing yourself to be less intelligent
Kim:
至於關於你需要注意/處理這些點的優先次序:
並非暗聊/憤怒
比較需要處理害怕, 和道德點
還有一方面處於自我意識(自大) - 另一方面卻相信自己比別人蠢的兩極化中
[9:46:53 AM] Fred C.: could u elaborate a little bit on my morality point is about ? specifically?
[9:47:15 AM] kim amourette: and also that polarity of being in ego on the one hand - and on the other hand believing yourself to be less intelligentand here, it's that point of ego which comes out as the backchat/anger
[9:47:31 AM] kim amourette: the morality point meaning the beliefs of right/wrong
Kim:
還有一方面處於自我意識(自大) - 另一方面卻相信自己比別人蠢的兩極化當中, 是自我意識/自大這點洐生出暗聊/憤怒
道德點意思是指(相信自己是)對/錯的信念
[9:48:28 AM] Fred C.: Ok, very cool!
[9:48:56 AM] kim amourette: if you go back in the chat you will see that there are a few belief systems listed that is about being a good/bad person or being wrong/right in situations
[9:49:15 AM] kim amourette: which would be the inner conflict you're experiencing
Kim:
如果你重看聊天記錄, 你會看到當中列出了數個信念系統, 跟做一個好/壞人, 或在處境上是錯/對
這就是你不斷体驗到的內在爭扎.
[9:49:26 AM] Fred C.: is the right/wrong about "I am right or I am wrong"?
[9:49:35 AM] kim amourette: yes
[9:49:58 AM] kim amourette: like, seeing yourself or situations as only right/wrong and good/bad
[9:50:08 AM] kim amourette: which then fuel the ego
Kim:
對.
就像, 視自己或處境是唯一對/錯, 和好/壞.
然後用這些來膨脹你的自我意識/自大.
[9:50:56 AM] Fred C.: ok, any suggestions on solutions? It should be writing then MC, SF and commit I presume
[9:51:10 AM] kim amourette: yes
[9:51:14 AM] kim amourette: hold on, let me see
[9:53:29 AM] kim amourette: alright, another solution that's testing out is to live a word
Kim:
對.
等一下, 讓我看看.
好的, 另一個測試出來的解決辨法是活一個字
[9:53:59 AM] Fred C.: that sounds an easier/shorter path, or it isn't? lol
[9:54:01 AM] kim amourette: the word specifically being gentleness
[9:54:15 AM] kim amourette: that sounds an easier/shorter path, or it isn't?yes it is indeed
Kim:
這個特定的字是溫和(Gentleness)
"這聽起來像一條較短的倢徑, 是不是? " - 這的確是.
[9:54:38 AM] Fred C.: Wow! Kim! I really want to give u an E-hug lol!! helps me a lot a lot!
[9:54:57 AM] kim amourette: lol cool (hug)
[9:54:59 AM] Fred C.: now, gentleness on others? on myself?
[9:55:14 AM] kim amourette: gentleness mostly on others
Kim:
大部份意思是指是對別人溫和
[9:55:49 AM] Fred C.: on how I deal with things? on how I treat others when I set a standard/goal for others?
[9:56:09 AM] kim amourette: on how I treat others when I set a standard/goal for others?yes
Kim:
"是否指當我要求對方逹到某些標準時, 我怎樣對待他們(即不夠溫和)?" - 是
[9:56:53 AM] Fred C.: now interesting enough, I found my mom totally lack of any gentleness to ppl. around her
[9:57:13 AM] kim amourette: yeah it would be something you've copied from her
Kim:
對, 這點是你從她那裏復製過來的.
[9:57:32 AM] Fred C.: now this lack of gentleness is it because I don't/seldom forgive ppl.??
[9:58:25 AM] kim amourette: now this lack of gentleness is it because I don't/seldom forgive ppl.??yes
[9:58:37 AM] kim amourette: and so also cause you don't forgive yourself
[9:58:56 AM] kim amourette: and another solution that is testing out is to talk to someone - specifically your mother
[9:59:00 AM] kim amourette: lol
Kim:
"現在這種缺乏溫, 和是否因為我不肯/很少原諒別人??" - 對.
還有因為你不肯原諒自己.
另一個測試出來的解決辨法是與別人交談 - 特別指你的母親
lol
[9:59:08 AM] Fred C.: will I become too ... 'weak' if I become too gentle(this is one of my worry) to others??
[9:59:52 AM] kim amourette: will I become too ... 'weak' if I become too gentle(this is one of my worry) to others??no, that would be your fear of being seen as weak
Kim:
"如果我變成對別人太溫和(這是我其中一個憂慮), 我會否變成太...'弱'?" - 不會, 這是你害怕在其他人眼中被視為弱者.
[10:00:17 AM] Fred C.: this is an very interesting solution as I currently need to hide my D. stuff under my mom, and my mom is like a volcano all the time, she has a lot of anger inside her and high blood pressure
[10:00:52 AM] Fred C.: ok, super cool! I'd live the word 'gentlenss'
[10:01:01 AM] kim amourette: yeah so what tested out is to talk to her - meaning like sharing what you realized with yourself, cause she would be dealing with the same patterns/ experiences
[10:01:30 AM] kim amourette: alrighty, that would be it for this session
[10:01:39 AM] kim amourette: I need to run to my next chat now Fred
[10:01:43 AM] kim amourette: I'll see you next week!!
Kim:
對啊, 所以測試結果顯示其中一個解決辨法是與她交談 - 意思是例如, 分享你對自己所察覺到的, 因為她同樣需要應付相同的模式/体驗.
好的, 我們的測試到這裏為止
[10:02:19 AM] Fred C.: Thank you So so so so much KIm!!!!!!!!! Words can't fully express how much I am excited and appreciated about your help!!
[10:02:51 AM] Fred C.: C u Kim!! Hug hug! Be strong in helping others and let's walk our process!!
答客問與重點:
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問: 请问Fred,这种测试方法,是否是用在自己行走进程一段时间之后,有一些靠自我觉察还看不清/看不到的预编程设计程序/遗传方面的点/内容。然后可以支持自己去面对/宽恕进而改进呢?
答: 大概是, 因為 Kinesiology 主要是分開 2部份: 1. 提供潛意識和無意識的模式以便你更瞭解自己問題在那裏 2. 提供除了自我寬恕, 承諾, 往後糾正應用之外, 其他針對你要問的點提供有效的另類解決辨法
Kinesiology 是Bernard 他們在 SRA(DIP-Pro 前身)初期極力推展的項目之一, 但因為我們太容易受到 心智的影響, 影響得出的結果, 所以現時在眾多人之中, 只有 Kim A. 和 Andrea R. 兩位女仕成功, 並且得到 B. 把自己的特徵訊號, 放進了她們的身体內. 效果就像, 我打個比方 - 像重點戰略轟炸一樣 - 集中在最重要和經常糾正失敗的點上, 並且給予最有效的解決方法
學員要求協助的條件:
因為還在測試/穏定的階段, 現時只限我們較核心的成員服務, 暫時是必需 1. 修讀 DIP - Pro, 2. 與 Buddy 商量過後一致認為長期不能夠自己解決和有需要進行 Kinesiology協助. 3. 有需要時會再跟 Sunette 約時間要求協助
問: 那么,Kinesiology 怎樣能夠縮短近 3年走進程的時間——这个问题,就是用这种“重点战略轰炸”来实现的?
答: 我記得 Bernard 曾經提過, 亦是為什麼我們經常在 DIP - Pro 中需要找出模式的 "根源", 當你如果從比方說潛意識, 和無意識這些深層/底部/根源/源頭的點消除/改寫自己. 是能夠像一棵樹一樣, 連根拔起的! 所以, 從根源和重點處處理好我們的模式, 是可以一併消除基建在它上面的有意識和潛意識模式的, 這就是為何能夠縮短大約最多 3年的進程時間.
而且 Kinesiology 主要是透過你問什麼點來得出解決辨法的, 並非問: 請給我最有效的解決方案這樣的. 有, 潛, 無意識的是屬於分析的部份
問: kinesiology测试结果也是会根据不同时间段每个人的心智问题偏重点不一样而不一样的吗? 还是说会一致性的把一个人作为心智的特质、模式统一性的测试出来?
答: 在進程不同階段(如果糾正了)會有不同的報告/結果.
什麼是活字(Living Words)?
活字就是在日常生活中不停活/應用這個字, 像我需要活的字是 Gentleness, 那麼時刻提醒自己要 Gentle柔和, 打字, 走路, 舉手投足, 說話都要: 我要柔和一點.
在這裏給大家介紹 Desteni進程的最新突破 - Kinesiology(利用身体肌肉來詢問怎樣能夠更有效地走自己的進程). 最多可以把走進程的時間, 從 7 - 14年, 縮短 3年. 以下是 Kim A. 給我做的報告給大家參考, 以便瞭解一下什麼是 Kinesiology, 它的功能是什麼, 能夠提供些什麼另類解決辨法等等.
Kinesiology 是Bernard 他們在 SRA(DIP-Pro 前身)初期極力推展的項目之一, 但因為我們太容易受到 心智的影響, 影響得出的結果, 所以現時在眾多人之中, 只有 Kim A. 和 Andrea R. 兩位女仕成功, 並且得到 Bernard 把自己的特徵訊號, 放進了她們的身体內. 效果就像, 我打個比方 - 像重點戰略轟炸一樣 - 集中在最重要和經常糾正失敗的點上, 並且給予最有效的解決方法.
[9:15:53 AM] kim amourette: hmm I'd need to have a list of points to test through Fred - in order to test which of those points would be priority
[9:16:15 AM] kim amourette: however I could see if something tests out in my material - just a moment
[9:16:22 AM] Fred C.: so I need to list you a list?
[9:16:47 AM] kim amourette: well if you are looking at specific topics that you're working with and you're wondering which of those is priority..
[9:17:32 AM] kim amourette: but I can test here - i also have a list
[9:17:41 AM] kim amourette: just one moment - toilet break!! brb!!
[9:17:50 AM] Fred C.: lol Ok, Thanks Kim!
[9:22:45 AM] kim amourette: ok i'm back
[9:24:27 AM] kim amourette: alright so priority - what tests out firstly is backchat
[9:24:32 AM] kim amourette: specifically in relation to yourself and others
[9:24:38 AM] kim amourette: this backchat is emotionally charged
[9:24:42 AM] kim amourette: specifically anger, frustration
Kim:
好的, 關於優先需要處理的點 - 測試顯示第一點是暗聊
特別關於自己與其他人的暗聊
是一種被情緒所激活的暗聊
特定來說來自憤怒和受挫/失敗
[9:24:49 AM] Fred C.: ok, yes!
[9:25:33 AM] Fred C.: I asked where this anger comes from, B. told me it's me spewing venoms to others through words
[9:26:01 AM] Fred C.: but I hv already changed and guard my mouth yet the angriness is still here with me
[9:26:33 AM] kim amourette: alright next thing that tests out is different emotions
Kim:
好的, 下一個重點是各種情緒
[9:26:48 AM] Fred C.: esp. with my mom, or when she's speak ironically
[9:26:55 AM] kim amourette: like scared, confused, bewildered, submissive, insecure, anxious, overwhelmed
[9:27:11 AM] kim amourette: and the anger/frustration would be an outflow from these ones
Kim:
像害怕, (混)亂, 不知所措, 服從, 不安感, 憂慮, (被)壓倒
而憤怒/失敗(受挫)源自上述的情緒
[9:27:20 AM] Fred C.: yes, most emotions stem from fear of death/pain
[9:27:37 AM] Fred C.: Oh! I didn't know that
[9:28:23 AM] kim amourette: alright, now these emotions of scared, confused, bewildered, submissive, insecure, anxious, overwhelmed is existing on an unconscious mind level within you - meaning that it is something you've copied from your parents, specifically your mother
[9:29:55 AM] kim amourette: and yes those fears is in relation to survival
Kim:
好的, 現在在你裏面, 這些害怕, (混)亂, 不知所措, 服從, 不安感, 憂慮, (被)壓倒情緒, 屬於無意識心智層面 - 意思是你從你父母處, 把它們複製過來, 特別來自你母親處.
[9:30:23 AM] Fred C.: sorry My mom just called me
[9:32:24 AM] kim amourette: alright now another thing that tests out is 'perceptions', specifically about yourself - meaning that you are having perceptions of yourself that are fuelling these emotional experiences of fear
Kim:
好的, 現在另一個測試得出的重點是 '感覺', 特關於自己的感覺 - 意思是你對自己的感覺, 在不斷燃起/導致出現這些害怕情緒
[9:32:30 AM] Fred C.: Ok, so now I know SF on my angriness and they come from scared
[9:32:57 AM] kim amourette: and these perceptions are filtered by emotions, memories, conversations with people, judgments and beliefs
[9:33:05 AM] kim amourette: 'filtered' meaning influenced by
Kim:
而且這些感覺被情緒, 記憶, 與別人的談話, 批判和信念所過濾
'過濾'的意思是受到影響
[9:33:47 AM] Fred C.: yes, I also have a lot of judgment against myself and others - almost on a physical level
[9:34:44 AM] kim amourette: so one of those filters is that there is a belief system in your mind that you are a good/bad person
[9:35:04 AM] kim amourette: meaning - that on a conscious mind level you believe yourself to be 'good', but on an unconscious mind level you see yourself as 'bad'
[9:35:33 AM] kim amourette: unconscious level meaning that it would be a belief that you copied from your parents
Kim:
所以其中一種過濾是在你心智裏的一個信念系統 - 你相信自己是一個好/壞人
意思是在有意識心智層面, 你相信自己是一個 '好人', 但在無意識層面, 你卻視自己為一個 '壞人'
無意識層面, 意思是你從父母處複製過來的信念
[9:35:41 AM | Edited 9:38:09 AM] Fred C.: It is surprisingly accurate and helpful!
[9:36:20 AM] kim amourette: ok yeah so you're dealing with a morality polarity there
[9:37:30 AM] kim amourette: there's also other beliefs testing out
[9:37:34 AM] kim amourette: I believe I am capable of anything I set my mind to
[9:37:40 AM] kim amourette: I believe I am different than other people
[9:38:01 AM] kim amourette: I believe I am wrong/right in most situations
[9:38:28 AM] kim amourette: i believe i am less intelligent than others
[9:38:45 AM] kim amourette: and that's all
Fred:
這真是驚訝地準確和有幫助!
Kim:
Ok 對啊, 所以你需要處理的, 是一個道德兩極化的點
測試到還有其他信念:
我相信(我的心智想得到的)我是無所不能的
我相信我是與別不同的
我相信我大部份時間都是錯/對的
我相信我比別人蠢
以上就是測試的結果
[9:38:56 AM] Fred C.: Thank you So so much Kim!!
[9:39:46 AM] kim amourette: and these are the beliefs you copied from your parents:
[9:39:47 AM] kim amourette: I believe I am different than other people
I believe I am wrong/right in most situations
[9:39:56 AM] kim amourette: the other ones, you created yourself
Kim:
以下是你從父母處複製過來的:
我相信我是與別不同的
我相信我大部份時間我都是錯/對的
其餘的都是你自己製造出來的.
[9:40:02 AM] Fred C.: Now how do I first stop these backchats???
[9:40:40 AM] kim amourette: and this belief is on a conscious mind level: I believe I am capable of anything I set my mind to
[9:40:55 AM] kim amourette: whereas this belief is on a subconscious mind level: i believe i am less intelligent than others
Kim:
而這種信念是在有意識層面: 我相信(我的心智想得到的)我是無所不能的
這種信念是在潛意識層面: 我相信我比別人蠢.
[9:41:06 AM] Fred C.: what does this one u just typed exactly means? could u elaborate a little bit?
[9:41:25 AM] Fred C.: capable of anything I set my mind
[9:41:25 AM] kim amourette: meaning that consciously you may believe yourself to be capable of anything you set your mind to -- yet subconsciously you actually believe yourself to be less intelligent than others
Kim:
意思是你在有意識層面, 相信自己(你心智想得到的)你是無所不能的 -- 然而潛意識地, 你實際上相信自己比別人蠢.
[9:41:46 AM] Fred C.: yes! I do hv these type of "conflict" inside me
[9:41:52 AM] kim amourette: it's like an ego point
Kim:
這就像一個自我意識/自大(Ego)點
[9:41:59 AM] Fred C.: ok, cool!
[9:42:17 AM] kim amourette: the ego point would be on the conscious mind level - but then subconsciously there's that belief that you're less intelligent
[9:43:34 AM] kim amourette: alright, so then in terms of the solution
[9:43:45 AM] kim amourette: first of all - does all of this information make sense to you so far?
Kim:
這個自我意識/自大點在有意識心智層面 - 但潛意識地, 你卻相信自己比別人蠢
好的, 至於解決辨法
首先 - 至今為止, 所有這些資料對你來說合理嗎?
[9:44:00 AM] Fred C.: With all these ingredients I can write a few MC to change me, yes! yes! and yes! very very much
[9:44:27 AM] Fred C.: because most of them are sub and un-conscious level, so I didn't notice them consciously / clearly
[9:45:44 AM] kim amourette: alright so in terms of your priority with what to look at/work on
[9:45:48 AM] kim amourette: it isn't the backchat/anger
[9:45:58 AM] kim amourette: it's more the fears as well as the morality points
[9:46:31 AM] kim amourette: and also that polarity of being in ego on the one hand - and on the other hand believing yourself to be less intelligent
Kim:
至於關於你需要注意/處理這些點的優先次序:
並非暗聊/憤怒
比較需要處理害怕, 和道德點
還有一方面處於自我意識(自大) - 另一方面卻相信自己比別人蠢的兩極化中
[9:46:53 AM] Fred C.: could u elaborate a little bit on my morality point is about ? specifically?
[9:47:15 AM] kim amourette: and also that polarity of being in ego on the one hand - and on the other hand believing yourself to be less intelligentand here, it's that point of ego which comes out as the backchat/anger
[9:47:31 AM] kim amourette: the morality point meaning the beliefs of right/wrong
Kim:
還有一方面處於自我意識(自大) - 另一方面卻相信自己比別人蠢的兩極化當中, 是自我意識/自大這點洐生出暗聊/憤怒
道德點意思是指(相信自己是)對/錯的信念
[9:48:28 AM] Fred C.: Ok, very cool!
[9:48:56 AM] kim amourette: if you go back in the chat you will see that there are a few belief systems listed that is about being a good/bad person or being wrong/right in situations
[9:49:15 AM] kim amourette: which would be the inner conflict you're experiencing
Kim:
如果你重看聊天記錄, 你會看到當中列出了數個信念系統, 跟做一個好/壞人, 或在處境上是錯/對
這就是你不斷体驗到的內在爭扎.
[9:49:26 AM] Fred C.: is the right/wrong about "I am right or I am wrong"?
[9:49:35 AM] kim amourette: yes
[9:49:58 AM] kim amourette: like, seeing yourself or situations as only right/wrong and good/bad
[9:50:08 AM] kim amourette: which then fuel the ego
Kim:
對.
就像, 視自己或處境是唯一對/錯, 和好/壞.
然後用這些來膨脹你的自我意識/自大.
[9:50:56 AM] Fred C.: ok, any suggestions on solutions? It should be writing then MC, SF and commit I presume
[9:51:10 AM] kim amourette: yes
[9:51:14 AM] kim amourette: hold on, let me see
[9:53:29 AM] kim amourette: alright, another solution that's testing out is to live a word
Kim:
對.
等一下, 讓我看看.
好的, 另一個測試出來的解決辨法是活一個字
[9:53:59 AM] Fred C.: that sounds an easier/shorter path, or it isn't? lol
[9:54:01 AM] kim amourette: the word specifically being gentleness
[9:54:15 AM] kim amourette: that sounds an easier/shorter path, or it isn't?yes it is indeed
Kim:
這個特定的字是溫和(Gentleness)
"這聽起來像一條較短的倢徑, 是不是? " - 這的確是.
[9:54:38 AM] Fred C.: Wow! Kim! I really want to give u an E-hug lol!! helps me a lot a lot!
[9:54:57 AM] kim amourette: lol cool (hug)
[9:54:59 AM] Fred C.: now, gentleness on others? on myself?
[9:55:14 AM] kim amourette: gentleness mostly on others
Kim:
大部份意思是指是對別人溫和
[9:55:49 AM] Fred C.: on how I deal with things? on how I treat others when I set a standard/goal for others?
[9:56:09 AM] kim amourette: on how I treat others when I set a standard/goal for others?yes
Kim:
"是否指當我要求對方逹到某些標準時, 我怎樣對待他們(即不夠溫和)?" - 是
[9:56:53 AM] Fred C.: now interesting enough, I found my mom totally lack of any gentleness to ppl. around her
[9:57:13 AM] kim amourette: yeah it would be something you've copied from her
Kim:
對, 這點是你從她那裏復製過來的.
[9:57:32 AM] Fred C.: now this lack of gentleness is it because I don't/seldom forgive ppl.??
[9:58:25 AM] kim amourette: now this lack of gentleness is it because I don't/seldom forgive ppl.??yes
[9:58:37 AM] kim amourette: and so also cause you don't forgive yourself
[9:58:56 AM] kim amourette: and another solution that is testing out is to talk to someone - specifically your mother
[9:59:00 AM] kim amourette: lol
Kim:
"現在這種缺乏溫, 和是否因為我不肯/很少原諒別人??" - 對.
還有因為你不肯原諒自己.
另一個測試出來的解決辨法是與別人交談 - 特別指你的母親
lol
[9:59:08 AM] Fred C.: will I become too ... 'weak' if I become too gentle(this is one of my worry) to others??
[9:59:52 AM] kim amourette: will I become too ... 'weak' if I become too gentle(this is one of my worry) to others??no, that would be your fear of being seen as weak
Kim:
"如果我變成對別人太溫和(這是我其中一個憂慮), 我會否變成太...'弱'?" - 不會, 這是你害怕在其他人眼中被視為弱者.
[10:00:17 AM] Fred C.: this is an very interesting solution as I currently need to hide my D. stuff under my mom, and my mom is like a volcano all the time, she has a lot of anger inside her and high blood pressure
[10:00:52 AM] Fred C.: ok, super cool! I'd live the word 'gentlenss'
[10:01:01 AM] kim amourette: yeah so what tested out is to talk to her - meaning like sharing what you realized with yourself, cause she would be dealing with the same patterns/ experiences
[10:01:30 AM] kim amourette: alrighty, that would be it for this session
[10:01:39 AM] kim amourette: I need to run to my next chat now Fred
[10:01:43 AM] kim amourette: I'll see you next week!!
Kim:
對啊, 所以測試結果顯示其中一個解決辨法是與她交談 - 意思是例如, 分享你對自己所察覺到的, 因為她同樣需要應付相同的模式/体驗.
好的, 我們的測試到這裏為止
[10:02:19 AM] Fred C.: Thank you So so so so much KIm!!!!!!!!! Words can't fully express how much I am excited and appreciated about your help!!
[10:02:51 AM] Fred C.: C u Kim!! Hug hug! Be strong in helping others and let's walk our process!!
答客問與重點:
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問: 请问Fred,这种测试方法,是否是用在自己行走进程一段时间之后,有一些靠自我觉察还看不清/看不到的预编程设计程序/遗传方面的点/内容。然后可以支持自己去面对/宽恕进而改进呢?
答: 大概是, 因為 Kinesiology 主要是分開 2部份: 1. 提供潛意識和無意識的模式以便你更瞭解自己問題在那裏 2. 提供除了自我寬恕, 承諾, 往後糾正應用之外, 其他針對你要問的點提供有效的另類解決辨法
Kinesiology 是Bernard 他們在 SRA(DIP-Pro 前身)初期極力推展的項目之一, 但因為我們太容易受到 心智的影響, 影響得出的結果, 所以現時在眾多人之中, 只有 Kim A. 和 Andrea R. 兩位女仕成功, 並且得到 B. 把自己的特徵訊號, 放進了她們的身体內. 效果就像, 我打個比方 - 像重點戰略轟炸一樣 - 集中在最重要和經常糾正失敗的點上, 並且給予最有效的解決方法
學員要求協助的條件:
因為還在測試/穏定的階段, 現時只限我們較核心的成員服務, 暫時是必需 1. 修讀 DIP - Pro, 2. 與 Buddy 商量過後一致認為長期不能夠自己解決和有需要進行 Kinesiology協助. 3. 有需要時會再跟 Sunette 約時間要求協助
問: 那么,Kinesiology 怎樣能夠縮短近 3年走進程的時間——这个问题,就是用这种“重点战略轰炸”来实现的?
答: 我記得 Bernard 曾經提過, 亦是為什麼我們經常在 DIP - Pro 中需要找出模式的 "根源", 當你如果從比方說潛意識, 和無意識這些深層/底部/根源/源頭的點消除/改寫自己. 是能夠像一棵樹一樣, 連根拔起的! 所以, 從根源和重點處處理好我們的模式, 是可以一併消除基建在它上面的有意識和潛意識模式的, 這就是為何能夠縮短大約最多 3年的進程時間.
而且 Kinesiology 主要是透過你問什麼點來得出解決辨法的, 並非問: 請給我最有效的解決方案這樣的. 有, 潛, 無意識的是屬於分析的部份
問: kinesiology测试结果也是会根据不同时间段每个人的心智问题偏重点不一样而不一样的吗? 还是说会一致性的把一个人作为心智的特质、模式统一性的测试出来?
答: 在進程不同階段(如果糾正了)會有不同的報告/結果.
什麼是活字(Living Words)?
活字就是在日常生活中不停活/應用這個字, 像我需要活的字是 Gentleness, 那麼時刻提醒自己要 Gentle柔和, 打字, 走路, 舉手投足, 說話都要: 我要柔和一點.