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Symbols and Archetypes
符号和原型
原文地址:http://desteni.org/a/symbols-and-archetypes
Interviews with Dimensions 与维度访谈

04 Dec 09 2009年12月4日
翻译:高洪 审核:Tanya Chou

We had a ‘great flood’ of Information coming-through as we were lying-down to rest – that we will be speaking.
Okay so the first Point that’s been ‘revealing-itself’ so to speak if you look at ‘Archetypes’ – okay I’m just gonna ‘dissect’ the word first – so – meaning: ‘dissect’ the word ‘Archetypes’ – First dissection: you have the word ‘Arch’ (sound: ‘Ark’) Second dissection: you have the word ‘E’ Third dissection: you have the word ‘T’ Fourth dissection: you have the word ‘Y’ Fifth dissection: you have ‘PES’
在当我们平躺下休息的时候我们有“大洪水”般的信息涌过来,我们将开始讲那讯息。
好,因此可以这样说第一个点已经“揭露-它本身”,如果你看着“原型(Archetypes)”。 好,我只是打算首先来“解构”这个字词,所以意思是:“解构”这字词“原型(Archetypes)”——第一个解构:你有字词“Arch”(发音:“Ark”);第二个解构:你有字词“E”;第三个解构:你有字词“T”;第四个解构:你有字词“Y”;第五个解构:你有“PES”。

Okay, let’s Look at the first-point of the word ‘Ark’, and the word ‘E’ that is ‘in relationship’ with-itself – remember we’re existing in (correction: it’s ‘in relationship’ with each-other) remember we’re existing currently within a ‘Reality of Relationships’ where two points ‘Unify’ within a ‘Unit’. So for example the word ‘Archetypes’: you have the Relationship between ‘Arch’ and ‘E’, you have a Relationship between ‘T’ and ‘Y’, then you have ‘P-E-S’ which is a point within-itself which ‘concludes’ the previous two relationships to form a ‘Total-Unit’, like a ‘Conclusion-point’, an ‘Outflow-point’ – So you have Relationships and you have the ‘Outflow-point’ Of that Relationship. So ‘P-E-S’ would be the ‘Outflow-point’ between the Relationships between ‘Arch’ and ‘E’ and ‘T’ and ‘Y’ – So, you have…let’s start first with ‘Ark’ and ‘E’; Now ‘Arch’ are referring to the ‘Biblical’-Reference of ‘Noah’s Ark’ with the ‘Great Flood’, which represents the ‘E’ within the word ‘Arche’ which also represents a ‘flood’, ‘E’ which stands for ‘Energy’ which in the Physical-Form relates to ‘Emotions’ and ‘Feelings’. Then you got ‘T’ and ‘Y’ – ‘T’ in terms-of the letter represents your Point of ‘Choice’, and ‘Y’ your Eternal-Cycling within the Question of ‘Why?’
好,让我们来看一看字词的第一个点“Ark”,而且字词“E”是与它本身“在关系中”-请记住我们是存在于(纠正一下:是与彼此“在关系中”),记住我们当前存在于一个“关系的现实”里面,其中两点“联合”在一个“单元”里。所以例如字词“Archetypes”(原型):你有“Arch”和“E”之间的关系,你有“T”和“Y”之间的一份关系,然后你有“P-E-S”它是在它自身里的一个点“推断出”之前的两个关系以形成一个“合计-单元”,像一个“结论-点”、一个“流出-点”,因此你拥有关系和那关系的“流出-点”。所以“P-E-S”将会是在“Arch”和“E”和“T”和“Y”之间的关系的“流出-点”,因此你有了…… 让我们先从“Ark”和“E”开始:现在“Arch”是指“依据圣经的”-参考“大洪水”里的“诺亚方舟”,象征着“E”在字词“Arche”里也代表“洪水”,“E”代表“能量”在物质形态里关联到“情绪”和“感觉”;然后你有“T”和“Y”-根据这字母“T”代表你的“选择”点;以及“Y”代表你的永恒-循环在“为什么”的问题里。

So in-essence you’re always ‘Questioning’ your Reality, Yourself – which just proves, well which basically Proves that: ‘Choice’ Doesn’t Exist; because you’re always ‘Driven’ by the Question ‘Why’, which is your Primary-Point of ‘Possession’ –and therefore your ‘Choices’ are Always Dictated by and through that ‘Point of Possession’ – Then you’ve got ‘P-E-S’ and if you look at the sexual-illness referred to as ‘Herpes’ ends with ‘PES’ – And you’ve also got ‘Appease’ and ‘Please’ which rhymes with (inaudible) ‘Herpes’, ‘PES’, ‘Please’… which is your Primary-Point of your ‘Sexuality’ within Existence is to ‘Appease your Desire’ and ‘Please your Partner’ – So the whole ‘Structural-Design’ of ‘Archetypes’ in terms of ‘How it Exist’ and ‘Why it Exist’– which technically exist in every single Human-Being – And this is Each and Every single ‘Archetype’ that exist: exist within Each and Every single Human-Being in some Form or another, whether ‘Present-Experienced’, ‘Future-Manifested’ or ‘Past-Memory’, it is existent within each and every single Human-Being.
因此实质上你一直在“询问”你的现实,你自己—如此仅仅证明,基本上证明了:“选择”不存在。因为你一直被问题“为什么”所“驱动”,它是你的“占有”的初始点——并且因此你的“选择”永远被和通过那个“占有的点”来指示。然后你会到达“P-E-S”,而且如果你看一下性病被称为如“疱疹(Herpes)”是以“PES”结尾。而且你也有“安抚(Appease)”和“讨好(Please)”与<听不见>“疱疹(Herpes)”、“PES”、“讨好(Please)”押韵……它是你在存在之中的“性欲”的起始点,是去“安抚你的欲望”和“讨好你的伴侣”——因此整个“原型”的“结构-设计”是依据“它如何存在”和“它为什么存在”-专门地存在于每一个单独的人类存有里面。而且每一个单独的“原型”是那样存在的:存在于每一个单独的人类存有里面以某种或另一种型态,不论是“当前-体验”、“未来-显示”或“过去-记忆”,它在每一个单独的人类存有里面存在。

Now ‘How’ and ‘Why’ were ‘Archetypes’ Manifested within Human-Beings, and ‘How’ it is being…‘How’ it remains Existent within Human-Beings is the…okay this point we just have to (inaudible) investigate in terms of ‘How’ and ‘Why’ ‘God’ in terms of the ‘Bible-Story’ killed all of Human-Beings and sent Noah upon his Ark with ‘the Great Flood’ – Okay wait, before I get to that point, the point that has to be taken into consideration is for example the reference of the Bible in itself, and all the stories that are in the Bible, and all the different variations and versions of the Bible – is that the Book in-itself is like a ‘Symbolic’ ‘Story’-like Reference to Each and Every single individual Human-Being’s Life – we’ll probably have to get to that point at a later stage, it will take a lot of time – but– it has been ‘walked into a Religion’ ‘encompassing many Human-Beings’ – Instead of Each individual Human-Being ‘Reflecting Upon-Themselves’ in terms-of ‘What is being Revealed’ within the stories of the Bible so to speak, so – the Story of ‘Noah and the Great Flood’ refers to in-essence Each and Every single individual Human-Being Experiencing that-‘Story’ of… Experiencing ‘God’s Wrath’ for whatever the ‘cause’ or ‘point of origin’ was…
现在“原型”是“如何”和“为什么”实化显现在人类存有里面的,以及它是“如何”存在的……它“如何”维持存在于人类存有里面的…… 好吧,这是一个我们刚刚必须去<听不见>调查的点有关于“如何”和“为什么”根据“圣经故事”所述“上帝”杀了所有的人类存有并且在“大洪水”中送诺亚上了他的方舟。好,等一下,在我讲到那一点之前,必须被考虑进去的这点是:例如圣经在它自身里面的引用、和所有在圣经里的故事、和圣经的所有不同变异和版本——那本书本身象是一个“符号的”“故事”,象是提及的每一个单独个别的人类存有的生活——我们可能将不得不在稍后阶段到达那个点,将需要许多时间。但是,它已经成为了“走进一个宗教”“围绕许多人类存有”——而不是,可以说是,每个个别的人类存有依据在圣经的故事里面“揭露出的是什么”来“反射在-他们自己之上”。因此,这个“诺亚方舟和大洪水”的故事指的是:本质上每一个单独个别的人类存有体验到那个“故事”的……为了不管什么样的“原因”或“起始点”体验到“上帝”的愤怒……

The ‘Archetypes’ in their relation to the words ‘Arch’ and ‘E’: you have to look-at the ‘point of origin’ in terms-of Why ‘God’ ‘condemned Humanity’ and sent ‘Noah on his Ark’ with ‘the Great Flood’=‘Energy’ and ‘Emotion’ – which means in-essence that the Whole-‘Construct’ within ‘Ark’ and ‘E’ in the words ‘Archetypes’ is that: your ‘Saving-Grace’ exist within the ‘Salvation’ of the ‘Flood’ which is your ‘Energies’ and ‘Emotions’ in terms-of ‘what you Experience’ – so therefore, the point of ‘Trust’ is so Ingrained within Human-Beings within the whole ‘Personality-Constructs’ of ‘Archetypes’ within just that one singular-point in relation-to the ‘Religious Story’ of the Bible and ‘Noah’s Ark’, that your ‘Saving-Grace’ and your ‘Salvation’ exist within your ‘Trust in what you Experience’ in terms of ‘Emotions’ and ‘Feelings’ – Now, ‘Emotions’ and ‘Feelings’ in relation-to ‘Personalities’ is what Defines ‘Personalities’, is what gives ‘Personalities’ ‘Life’, is ‘Energy’– and thus, Human-Beings will ‘Trust’ their ‘Personalities’ because of it being Based within ‘Energy’, in relation to the word ‘Archetypes’ where there is ‘Ark’ and the ‘Great Flood’ and that whole-point of ‘Trust’, and therefore, Human-Beings will ‘Play-out’ their ‘Archetypal Personalities’ in ‘Belief’ that it is ‘Who they are’.
“原型(Archetypes)”在它们与字词“Arch”和“E”之间的关系:你必须去看一看在为什么“上帝”、“已被定罪的人类”和在“大洪水”里送“诺亚上他的方舟”=“能量”和“情绪”方面的“起始点”——意味着本质上在字词“原型(Archetypes)”里的“方舟(Ark)”和“E”里面的整个“构造”是:你的“可取之处(Saving-Grace)”存在于“洪水”的“拯救”里面,那是你依据“你所体验到”的“能量”和“情绪”——因此,“信赖”的点是如此根深蒂固在人类存有里面在整个“原型(Archetypes)”的“人格构造”之中,在那里面只是一个单独的点与圣经的“宗教故事”和“诺亚方舟”有关,你的“可取之处(Saving-Grace)”和你的“拯救”存在于你根据“情绪”和“感觉”“信赖你所体验到的”里面。现在,“情绪”和“感觉”涉及“人格”、定义“人格”、给予“人格”“生命”、是“能量”——并且因此,人类存有将“信赖”他们的“人格”因为它是立基在“能量”里的,关联到字词“原型(Archetypes)”里的“方舟(Ark)”和“大洪水”和那“信赖”的整个点,而且因此,人类存有将在“信念”那是“他们是谁”里面“发挥出”他们的“原型人格”。

Okay, then you’ve got ‘T’ and ‘Y’ – Now these two letters within the word ‘Archetype’ will Keep-you into the ‘Manifested Physical ‘Play-Out’ Cycle’ of ‘Living-out’ your ‘Archetypes’ within your-Life ‘from Birth to Death’ through reversing ‘T’ and ‘Y’ in-essence, by constantly ‘Cycling’ the Question within-Yourself of ‘Why’, in terms of wanting to ‘Question’ what it-is that you’re ‘Experiencing’, what is continuing existing within your Reality, when the first-point is even the problem within ‘asking the Question’ (of ‘Why’) in the first place, instead-of looking at a point within Common Sense, not from the perspective of ‘Questioning’, but: Introspection. And then also, within that ‘Cycling of Questioning’, of ‘Cycling-You’ within the ‘Questioning’ of ‘Why?’ – you’re existing within the ‘Belief’ and ‘Perception’ of ‘Choice’ within-which you’re ‘Trapped in Time’ – and if you place ‘T’ and ‘Y’ together it says ‘Ty’ which is ‘Tying’-you into this ‘Archetypal Personality Manifestation’ into ‘Time’ (Ty-me), which is your ‘Play-out’ within your whole ‘Life-Experience’.
好,然后你到了“T”和“Y”——现在在字词“原型(Archetypes)”里面的这两个字母将在你的“从生到死”的生活里面走过实质上反转的“T”和“Y”维持你进入“活出”你的“原型”的“实化显现的物质的‘演出’循环”里,通过不断地“循环”在你自己里面的“为什么”这个问题,根据你想要“询问”什么是你正在“体验着的”,什么是持续存在于你的现实里面的,当首先第一个点甚至是在“问问题”(属于“为什么”)的难题里,而不是看一看在普同常识里的点,不是从“询问”的视角,而是:反省。然后,也在那个“询问的循环”里,属于“循环-你”在“为什么?”的“询问”里——你正存在于“选择”的“信念”和“看法”里面-在其里面你是“受困于时间”的,而且如果你将“T”和“Y”放在一起说的是“Ty”是“束缚(Tying)”——你进入这个“原型人格实化体”里进入“时间(Time)”(Ty-me),是在你整个“生活经历”里面的你的“演出”。

Then you’ve got your last point which is your ‘P-E-S’ which I’ve said relate…sounds-like ‘Herpes’ which is ‘Appease’ and ‘Please’, wherein your Basis within-which you’ll Use your ‘Archetypes’ Always is Sexual in Nature, whether… – meaning, ‘Sexual’: you Can’t in-essence look at the physical act of sex in-itself – ‘Sexual’ means to ‘Appease’ or to ‘Please’, wherein you will use your ‘Archetypal Personalities’ to ‘attempt’ or ‘try’ to ‘Appease’-Yourself in some way or ‘Please’ Someone-Else in some way – which is the ‘basic-Format’ in which Sex exist.
然后你到了最后的点,就是你的“P-E-S”,我已说过有关……听上去像“疱疹”,是“安抚”和“讨好”,在其中你的基底里面你将使用你的“原型”事实上总是有性的,不论……-意味着“有性的”:你本质上无法看到物质的性在它本身的行为——“有性的”意思是去“安抚”或者去“讨好”,在其中你将使用你的“原型个性”用某些方式“企图”或“尝试”去“安抚”你自己或用某些方式“讨好”某些人——这就是性存在的“基础格式”。

Bernard:…(inau¬dible)…your ‘Secret-Mind’
Dimensions: Yes.
Bernard: Essentially ‘Secret-Mind’
Dimensions: You can ‘break-it down’ to only those two words: ‘Appease’ and ‘Please’. Okay, sounds very ‘rough’… but I just talked as it ‘came-up’.
Bernard:…<听不见的>… 你的“秘密心智”
Dimensions:是的。
Bernard: 本质上“秘密心智”
Dimensions: 你能“将它拆”成只是那两个字词:“安抚”和“讨好”。好了,听上去非常“艰苦”……但是我只是说当它“发生”时。
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