Desteni 2008 - 2009年(大部份是 Bernard的)金句集

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Desteni 2008 - 2009年(大部份是 Bernard的)金句集

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Desteni 2008年金句集:
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23:08:41 ‹Bernard› when living as self as life--people at the right momnet will be drawn to you by life itself
23:08:41 ‹Bernard› 當你以自己(Self), 以生命來活每一天的時候 -- 在/到了適當的時候, 其他人會因為(你裏面懷着的)生命所吸引, 慢慢走向你.

31/01/2008 22:46:37 ‹Bernard› in breath--as life--time disappears
31/01/2008 23:14:51 ‹Bernard› riddles are to assist with self realization--because if I give you the answer--you have to experience a time loop--if you give the answer--it is insight

31/01/2008 22:46:37 ‹Bernard› 吸氣 -- (把自己)變成生命 --(這段期間)時間就會消失
31/01/2008 23:14:51 ‹Bernard› 謎語是為了協助, 啓發自己的自我察覺 -- 因為如果我直接給你答案 -- 你就必需經歷一次時間循環(Time Loop) -- 如果你自己找出答案 -- 這就變成了你的洞察


‹Sunette› In this process - your communication will 'change' from how you comm. previously - becasue your comm. will become a statement/expression of you
‹Sunette› 在這個進程中 - 跟你以前相比, 你會 '改變'自己溝通的方式 - 因為你的溝通將會變成你的表述/表現


19:17:28 ‹Jack› So - in stopping in every moment, this self honest practical application - is the first point you focus you as you within and as - becasue it is from this ONE POINT of STOPPING that you 'emerge' and stand as life within and as self honesty, because
31/01/2008 19:18:02 ‹Jack› in trying to do 'more than this' = would be another application of 'wanting to be god ' as 'more than'
‹Jack› SO - FOCUS ON ONE POINT - the ONE POINT as STOPPING in every MOMENT - all and everything that you are not, IN EVERY BREATH HERE you apply this as practical application of self honesty here as you

19:17:28 ‹Jack› 所以 - 當你最首要做的, 就是你集中注意力在自己, 即是你自己裏面, 和努力改正自己, 變成 - 在每刻都制止自己(過往的模式), 這種實際自我誠實應用 - 因為就是從 "制止自己這一點"開始, 你在裏面開始 "冒起來" 並且堅守成為生命和堅守自我誠實, 因為
31/01/2008 19:18:02 ‹Jack› 當你試圖 "要超越這種應用"時 = 就正正變成了另一個 "我要成為神"的應用/例子, 即是 "比別人更勝一籌(More Than)"
‹Jack› "所以 - (只)集中在一點" - 這 "一點" 就是在每 "一刻/瞬間"都 "制止(自己)" - (制止)所有一切, 各種不是你/不屬於你(自願)的東西. "在每口呼吸, 在這裏"你都應用這點, 在這裏, 把這種自我誠實的實際應用, 成為自己(的一部份)


‹Bernard› always see things direct Ann in its simplist form--then the mind cannot ****
‹Sunette› ann - with regards to forgiveness - I apply self forgiveness in making a statement of me within me as me in the moment here whenever I see in a moment there's a thought/reaction

‹Bernard› 永遠都用最直接的方式來看/分析事物 Ann, 用最簡單的方式解構 -- 這樣心智就沒有能力(搞砸)你
‹Sunette› Ann - 對於寬恕 - 每當我看到自己這刻, 裏面出現了念頭/反應時, 我都會在自己裏面, 應用自我寬恕, 為了表述我在這裏(Here), 在這刻(我是一個怎樣的人)

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27/01/2008 16:41:31 ‹Bernard› self honesty is about understanding life
27/01/2008 16:41:42 ‹Bernard› to stand as all life
27/01/2008 16:41:54 ‹Bernard› and understand that in practical application
27/01/2008 16:42:06 ‹Bernard› to do what it takes in tha face of all

27/01/2008 16:41:31 ‹Bernard› 自我誠實(Self Honesty)的意思, 是為了明白/瞭解生命
27/01/2008 16:41:42 ‹Bernard› 堅持我就是所有的(平等)生命
27/01/2008 16:41:54 ‹Bernard› 並且明白自己需要不惜一切地
27/01/2008 16:42:06 ‹Bernard› 在面對(存在裏)所有一切(人仕的)面前, 徹實地應用它


26/01/2008 19:23:15 ‹Bernard› as no one will get answers but from self in common sense as life
26/01/2008 19:23:15 ‹Bernard› 所有人都只必需, 從自己處於應用常識的狀態下, 自己領悟出怎樣才能夠成為生命, (為自己找出)答案


26/01/2008 19:38:29 ‹Veno› adele - not trying - we're here to realise who we are as life as all as one as equal - if we don't get it done, we'll do it again until we realise ourselves
26/01/2008 20:12:22 ‹Veno› SV - but you haven't written as you for you in self honesty

26/01/2008 19:38:29 ‹Veno› Adele - 不是嘗試 - 我們在這裏, 是要察覺/實現("Real"ize)我們作為生命, 意思是自己跟所有一切, 都是一体, 都是平等的 - 如果我們這次再失敗了, 我們會重頭再開始, 一直到我們察覺/實現自己為止
26/01/2008 20:12:22 ‹Veno› SV - 但是你沒有, 為自己, 忠於自己(As You), 自我誠實地寫作


‹Bernard› first WORD was separartion--an Image of SELF --a MIRROR as WORD--that now CONtrols ALL
‹Bernard› 第一個出現的 "字"就是分離(Separation) -- 是一個 "自己(Self)"的鏡像 -- 一面由 "字"組成的 "鏡子" -- 它現在 "(透過欺騙)操縱(CONtrol)"着 "所有一切"


15/06/2008 18:12:32 ‹Bernard› long ago when it first started happening --I realized--I am here--and everywhere is here--and I trust me here and everywhere as here

15/06/2008 18:34:44 ‹Bernard› no lloyd--to never be lloyd again--lloyd cannot be fixed--lloyd is an idea programmed for the matrix
15/06/2008 18:36:43 ‹Bernard› no ebnergetic response pattern joao--first breath--there must be no change in you from momemnt to moment for equal and one mo(ve)ment
15/06/2008 18:58:24 ‹Bernard› see joao--you still consider time and space--which is actually only a streched moment that requires a grid design to consider traffick flow


15/06/2008 18:12:32 ‹Bernard› 很久以前, 當這一切開剛開始的時候 -- 我察覺到 -- 我在這裏(Here)的 -- (不管是什麼)所有一切都在這裏的 -- 而且我信任當我在這裏(Here), (和不管我在什麼地方/狀態), 信任在/處於這裏(Here)的自己

15/06/2008 18:34:44 ‹Bernard› 不 lloyd -- 你永遠也不要再變成 lloyd -- lloyd 已經沒救了(不能夠修理) -- lloyd 是一個為了(服務)意識社會(Matrix), 而預編程出來的一個概念
15/06/2008 18:36:43 ‹Bernard› 不要産生任何能量性的反應 joao -- 首先深呼吸 -- 你在瞬間與瞬間, 每刻之間都不能夠有任何改變/波動, 要變成自己每刻, 都是同樣連貫/一貫的一種趨向[Mo(ve)ment]
15/06/2008 18:58:24 ‹Bernard› 看一看 joao -- 你仍然以為時間和空間... -- 實際上它只是一個被拉長了, 需要一個 "網格設計", 並且視它為一種控制交通/非法交易(Traffick Flow)流動的工具, 的一個瞬間(Moment)而已

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Bernard's "salvia is extremely dangerous" reply:
Obviously this video is an opinion we shared

not what we say it is

all is always based on a starting point

if energy is the starting point of any experience--the user is fucked by it--as energy is the grand deception in our attempt to feel alive--in this energy--we seek our salvation--whether through drugs or love or sex or religion--it is the result of polarity as energy only moves in polarity and is the outflow of separation

drugs can be supportive--we will expound on this in time to come


<Adele Desteni quotes - 136>
Therefore – it’s to release the past within you entirely – through writing and self forgiveness, because for the past to exist a future must exist, and in letting go of the past, you let go of the future and you LIVE HERE AS SELF in and as BREATH unconditionally – no more conditioned by the past or the future creating the now/present which enslaves you to the unified consciousness field of mind.

<Desteni quotes - 144, Bruce L.>
striving = starving

The more there is striving - even within an individual 'personal' desire - towards something somewhere - the more starving exists - because for those who wants and gets (strives) - there are those from which it taken (starves).

<Desteni quotes: 161>
Be the equilibrium - be HERE.

Therefore, I’d suggest to ‘release the past within you’ completely/entirely – realise that the ‘experience’ of ‘you as who you really are’ – is not some ‘profound ‘out there’ experience’ at all – so whenever you experience something ‘seemingly profound’ within you such as you did in the past = it’s the mind.

You are simplicity – you are here: I am here – that’s it.

<Desteni quotes 175 - Bernard>
all pain is the wrapping paper of the gift of self

Unwrap and embrace--thus --see what it is that one learn from experience and pain to stand for all life as one and equal

<Desteni quotes: 193>

As long as pre-programmed responses, fears, likenesses, preferences, ideas exist as the directive personality superseding self, self-honesty is not Here as self.


<Desteni quotes: 194>
Justification is the ACCEPTANCE of less than self in all forms and ways and being OK with such acceptance and then comes deliberate dishonest justifications--that is to make the justification Sound right with REASONS

<Desteni quotes: 196>

A few points to chew

有幾點給您們細心想一想的

self honesty is to realize the consequence for ALL in the partake of the participant -- thus--for a positive experience to one participant--another participant--mostly unknown to the positive seeker--must balance the equation for reality to seemingly remain stable--must carry the negative-

自我誠實的意思, 是當您吃/喝(奪取/侵取)參與者/對方的時候, 您察覺到對 "所有一切"會造成的後果 -- 因此 -- 為了讓一個參與者得到一趟正面的体驗 -- 另一個參與者--大部份時間, 正面体驗的追夢者完全不知情下的(受害者)-- 必需負起平衡現實等式中的角色, 以維持表面看似是, 穏定的狀態--他/她必需承受負面/痛楚-

<Desteni quotes: 198>

Thus--self honesty for ALL as ONE as equals--to stop this see--saw BS called existence just because sometimes you may hit the jackpot and have a great life--and the call it a success by the law of attraction--is UNBECOMING of a creator--and such creators--HAVE no POWER--as the laws they buy into as consciousness--controls them and they are ONLY a spinning casino game of thoughts feelings and emotions at the BEHEST of keeping the balance

<Desteni quotes, Bernard points to consider>
* Oneness and equality cannot be forced--you are it or you are not-- you cannot deny it -- or hide from it-- you will either make it or you will not

* Expression through--is subject to a system

life is expression as--self is expression as
If self is not authentic and original -- self is just a mime--a reflection of a system and thus less than a system

* Thus--all that self have not DIRECTLY placed in your life in all ways--from conception to expression to result--is of the mind and thus preprogrammed and came into your life as a program

this is why ALL relationships are SELF DECEPTION and addiction to fear of loss and fear related to survival--not many will make this--and many will argue and fight for the survival of the relationship system--I suggest not--the consequences of sparking the relationship to save another or make sure self survive--is eating from knowledge--eating from fear--because all knowledge is fear--and those that eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge will certainly die and not make this birthing of SELF--and remember--you can ONLY birth yourself--and not another

(My seeing:Fruit of Past)

* Many patterns, patterns are the design construct of knowledge that form the holographic illustration of self that is lived --this is NOT life

* Access to self cannot be gained--access is granted and given for self by self

you will be denied access to you as long as you deny access to you

* If the answer is given it is not for given and self realization is for saken

the focal point of the vocalization


* See the snake and its secret

it is the biter and the bitten

a polarity that play out for eternity--equal and one--the biter becomes the bitten and the bitten becomes the biter and in this all gets BITTER

now--the thing that makes the mind zing

if you are neither the biter or the bitten this life--by virtue of allowing such cycle to exist--you are locked into the eternal cycle of life--to become equal and one both the biter and the bitten because you allowed it in another --who is really allowing it to exist in you

this is what must be stopped--because this is how our bitterness became demons as ourselves and how we manifested a mind to manage and forget--because we were trapped in this cycle--unable to give up the good times when it arrives and unwilling to see how we participate and create both the biter and the bitten--this is why self forgiveness in all ways is necessary--to have one point where we are all equal and one in understanding and self honesty to make sure we do not deceive ourselves through pretense == because no matter who we deceive--see--it is ALWAYS ONLY OURSELVES

15/06/2008 10:52:05 ‹Bernard› what is HERE is all points of polarities in relation to an attempt to ballance the equation--see the matrix movie for this

15/06/2008 18:34:07 ‹Lloyd› ahhh....the throwing away of the "old Lloyd" to become the new improved Lloyd...hahahaha
15/06/2008 18:34:44 ‹Bernard› no lloyd--to never be lloyd again--lloyd cannot be fixed--lloyd is an idea programmed for the matrix

15/06/2008 18:35:33 ‹Bernard› life is equal in all--nameless--boundless--if all else is gone--remains here is life

15/06/2008 18:44:16 ‹Bernard› I am interdimensional--thus everywhere as here

11/01/2009 19:24:24 ‹Kieran› Yip - it's to be the same whether alone or when with people 'watching you' - quite a point to observe within self this

11/01/2009 19:30:57 ‹Kieran› Yes - 'friends' have become 'distractions' to support each other to distract ourselves from ourselves with 'entertainment' - it's all become about entertaining self with pre-occupation instead of recognizing self here and living

11/01/2009 19:40:52 ‹Kieran› If you live self honesty as you - then you're living self honesty - then your self-honest expression stand - being self-honest as you - is being self honest with others as you = you're the starting point = you're still relating yourself to/towards others

11/01/2009 19:41:51 ‹Kieran› Honesty - is when you change yourself to suit you with others

11/01/2009 19:42:34 ‹Kieran› Self Honesty is you being self directive with regards to what you will accept/allow and what not within the starting point of equal and one

11/01/2009 19:45:15 ‹Kieran› Carolina - it's not about being honest with others - if your starting point is being honest with others - a door opens of justification - I'd suggest simply first focus on self honesty - being self honest with you here in the moment - live an example of self-honesty

11/01/2009 20:00:44 ‹Kieran› many traditions,religions, paths and ways have aspects Jesper = the point always missed: Self honesty and equality and oneness

11/01/2009 20:02:57 ‹Ryan› Kieran, dimensions is like nothing on earth?

11/01/2009 20:03:51 ‹Kieran› Ryan - it's exactly as earth times 1000000000000000000000000000 the intenseness of self-experience as you walk through your process

29/06/2008 15:07:14 ‹Bernard› the principle is what is best for all is best for self--then we are getting to it

29/06/2008 15:15:50 ‹Bernard› See--my permanent state is the same as on drugs--thus--I am high all the time--lol

29/06/2008 15:16:43 ‹Bernard› the drug like extasy for instance remove the mind/emotional state for a moment

29/06/2008 15:17:18 ‹Bernard› weed bring out the suppressions and will go to the opposite afterwards

29/06/2008 15:17:37 ‹Bernard› coke is plain ego bullshit and enhance the ego to be more effective

29/06/2008 15:51:03 ‹Bernard› yes--why hang on to anything when you have everything a all?

29/06/2008 16:21:25 ‹Bernard› Anu used logic covered as common sense--using 95% "truth" with the core false--and thus all fell forit

08/11/2008 20:41:04 ‹Bernard› here is always here--we created here in our image--now to stop and recreate it

08/11/2008 20:52:44 ‹Bernard› all u study is in books--like all knowledge come from books--and never made any difference to the real problems on earth

08/11/2008 21:06:16 ‹Bernard› the only point that is real equal and one for all is the physical breath
08/11/2008 21:06:47 ‹Bernard› there is infinite time solmaz--because u can only do what u can in breath and that is sufficient

08/11/2008 21:08:39 ‹Bernard› the mind represents desires and hopes and competition and achievement and better

28/08/2008 19:10:09 ‹Hansie› BECAUSE - the KEY is the PHYSICAL - this is where HERE is as i am HERE

<Bernard> Drop all of everything forever and HERE remains

18/06/2008 18:32:25 ‹Sarah› understand Terri, we're still in this existence, this unified field manifested as 'time' - though it is for self to not exist of time, to stop the existence of time as past present and future and so stop the continuation of the unified field -this done through living HERE as breath where all of self as self is HERE - here in and as breath where no time exist = timelessness

<dimensions>
<所有次元人仕>

*The point must always be self - the point is self--because nothing else but self exist

重點永遠都必需集中在自己(Self)身上 - 重點必需是自己--因為除了自己(在這裏)存在以外, (這裏)什麼也沒有

*ForeSee, To ForeSee the Future is forsaking Self for the sake of the Mind

預見, 預測/預見將來意思是為了心智(的生存/利益), 而放棄自己

Meaning that if you are projecting yourself into the future - you are giving your power away to the mind to design your life for you

Intel --Intelligence--the cleverness designed construct in which you become a sly fox in the system cared for by the system and OF the system

Intelligence is useless --self as life is not defined by intelligence

意思是如果您把自己, 投映在未來裏 - 您即是把自己的力量/權力, 送給了心智, 為您設計自己的人生

智慧--是一種很聰明的設計結構体, 當中它把您變成, 在系統裏的一頭狡滑的狐狸, (只)關心系統, 受到系統的眷顧, 忠於並且屬於系統的一部份.

智慧是毫無價值的 --作為(平等)生命的自己(Self)是不受智慧所定義的


*Self AND NOT the System/Mind must be the DIRECTIVE CAUSE

必需要以自己(Self) "不要"以系統/心智成為您的指揮官.


<Mother matrix>
*Do not define self by fuckups and failures
*Each is ALL knowing within themselves and Know all that happens in self as the attention in every moment--now only to be self honest in each moment--and the all knowing of self will change and know ALL

In the desire to possess is the lack

whether it be knowledge, insight, love, divinity, power, life

you are your own un-doing and un-being


*When we accept what is HERE as self in every breath--we will find self directiveness

when we wish for what is not HERE as the breath--we will seek for what is NOT HERE and be LOST

The key is HERE as SELF

when this is LIVING SELF

ALL ELSE WILL REVEAL


07/10/2008 19:10:07 ‹AliceB.› David - the only reason why you wouldn't is because you fear it being done unto you - getting hurt through words is the construct of takign something personally - and when a being reacts to words, it simply indicate the words was exact

01/10/2008 17:56:29 ‹Hitler› Hereness not a feeling Ric - be cautious of not projecting you into the future by looking for an experience as feeling as here - here is here in and as breath

01/10/2008 17:59:33 ‹Hitler› A process Aldin - where the word you write and the words you live/speak is one and equal here as you - writing is you establishing/forming the foundation of you to stand as - then the living/speaking emerge one and equal = this is what practical application assist with

05/10/2008 18:37:13 ‹Jack› creating a relationship Joe - lol, well, if you push someone within a point, you must be willing to walk with them through it - take self responsibility - otherwise, if you don't - simply indicate you weren't self-honest in your starting point

05/10/2008 18:40:24 ‹Jack› Reginald - purpose has become the very nature of our existence manifested as the 'eternal search for ourselves'

05/10/2008 18:41:11 ‹Jack› instead of realising we're HERE, and that all and everything is one and equal here as ourselves here

05/10/2008 19:21:21 ‹Jack› With regards to the post on OF Reginald - realise your starting point is you, expressing you and your specificity in self expression assist and support you here = and not to 'want to do it to help others' = separation

27/09/2008 18:12:22 ‹Bernard› Aldin--through self acceptance as self honesty expressly lived in every breath

27/09/2008 18:13:14 ‹Bernard› Thus self trust as life evident as who you are here

6:38:04 ‹Osho› Self trust - taking in and standing as what is here in the moment - directing self in common sense self honesty - not based on what has been before - but what is here and only here in the moment

28/09/2008 16:40:09 ‹Osho› Cool directive principle Leila - see - not so bad as what the mind makes it to be - the mind utilize fear through future projection to keep the being trapped in how the mind has been designed/set-up = for how can the mind or even you possibly interpret how a moment could play out? Therefore - you've shown yourself - fear is ridiculous with regards to future projections - trust you here and express

28/09/2008 17:26:19 ‹Osho› Aldin - this experience is you actually speaking the words in awareness/presence here - where you are self directive as the words - its no more just words spoken due to the habit of speaking - its self presence in words

28/09/2008 17:45:50 ‹Osho› let's not dwell on what has been - what is relevant is what is here and we're here - so let's work with what is here as here

29/09/2008 17:47:47 ‹Jack› What is it about confrontation that you fear/anger expressed towards you that you fear? I find it places one 'in the spot' when someone reacts, you cannot think about what to say - you must breathe and trust you in the moment and speak common sense - quite a challenge - but assists self immensely to see reactions and transcend them in the moment of experience and expre

28/08/2008 19:22:54 ‹Hansie› that losing control point - is the very addiction, is the adrenaline that so many seek/look for - not realising the actual manifested consequence it has in and as this world = that's disturbing

14/08/2008 19:02:55 ‹Hitler› Ruben, take into consideration to not only transfer knowledge and information - but express who you are as that which you'll be presenting and your experience of you within and as it

31/07/2008 18:50:27 ‹Jack› The eternal search for love - which manifest the polarity of 'hate' as 'abuse' - because it's the statement you're making of yourself - I am 'unloved' - therefore I need love, which will actually manifest the experience of yourself as 'hate' and all that hate incorporates = abuse = ****ed up

28/07/2008 17:58:38 ‹Mykey› lol - shit, purpose a tough one, I'd suggest making sure you don't exist for or within a purpose/reason, otherwise that which you 'lived' for connected to the purpose/reason will be taken away = I've experienced that - not necessary - lol

26/07/2008 19:25:54 ‹Bernard› What is HERE is ALWAYS HERE
19:26:16 ‹Bernard› what is NOT HERE--never exist
26/07/2008 19:27:04 ‹Bernard› Personality is NOT HERE
19:27:33 ‹Bernard› Breathe MAY assist to SEE what is NOT HERE
26/07/2008 19:28:07 ‹Bernard› But even BREATHE is NOT HERE
19:28:36 ‹Bernard› Time is not HERE
26/07/2008 19:29:01 ‹Bernard› but the TEST OF TIME may reveal HERE
19:29:18 ‹Bernard› HERE is not FORM
26/07/2008 19:29:27 ‹Bernard› yet Form may be found here
19:30:17 ‹Bernard› thus INFORMATION that comes from NOWHERE is ALWAYS lost
26/07/2008 19:35:55 ‹Bernard› KNOWLEDGE are NEVER HERE
19:36:03 ‹Bernard› HERE cannot be TAUGHT
26/07/2008 19:36:17 ‹Bernard› HERE cannot be THOUGHT

26/07/2008 20:03:15 ‹Bernard› END OF TIME is HERE
26/07/2008 20:03:36 ‹Bernard› HERE is END OF TIME
26/07/2008 20:03:51 ‹Bernard› HERE ends TIME

26/07/2008 20:04:11 ‹Bernard› ALARMING TIMESaHEAD
20:04:31 ‹Bernard› WAKE UP from TIME

25/06/2008 18:24:41 ‹Bernard› understand that the existence as dimensions--thus as heaven--was a state of thought-- a state of mind where incarnations used to hapen equal and one
25/06/2008 18:25:09 ‹Bernard› then some wanted to be god--and then started directing existence for their benefit only

24/06/2008 21:30:55 ‹Bernard› breath deedra AND SEE WHAT IS REALLY HERE AND WHAT DEFINE YOU THAT DEATH WILL REMOVE
24/06/2008 21:31:11 ‹Bernard› BECAUSE AS LONG AS DEATH CAN REMOVE SOMETHING--YOU ARE ENSLAVED

24/06/2008 21:35:53 ‹Bernard› lloyd--the self forgiveness is a tool--the self honesty is self realization--thus all that is required

22/06/2008 23:05:23 ‹Bernard› ricardo--self honesty is self--careful when it become knowledge--no longer self honesty

23:06:12 ‹Bernard› no one but self will ever reveal self honesty--because self must reveal it
18:29:08 ‹Veno› AP - you're not going to understand common sense according to another's experience thereof within which you form an idea of what it might be - common sense stand within and as self honesty as self - you will express common sense as you in self honest expression

17:30:43 ‹Mykey› Bella - self expression is 'who I am' in every moment, I'd say self expression is when you stop, stand up and move you

18/06/2008 18:19:31 ‹Sarah› The physical body, you the being and the mind is one here - this process for and of each one is to actually birth you as life from the physical here
18/06/2008 18:21:06 ‹Sarah› Life in and as physicality here - no more mind in and as physicality here through which you exist, because in you as life in and as physicality: I express, I direct, I move - no more the mind doing it for you / anyone else


18/06/2008 18:29:55 ‹Sarah› No Terri, time is determined according to mind where the past is stored as memory which manifest the future in the present - past, present future, the now of consciousness = the construct of time/the illusion of time, see in breathe here as self, no time exists, because all of self is HERE

18/06/2008 18:32:25 ‹Sarah› understand Terri, we're still in this existence, this unified field manifested as 'time' - though it is for self to not exist of time, to stop the existence of time as past present and future and so stop the continuation of the unified field -this done through living HERE as breath where all of self as self is HERE - here in and as breath where no time exist = timelessness

23:30:07 ‹Bernard› design DIRECT as HERE--there is ONLY here
23:30:57 ‹Bernard› any form of exitement--it is mind terri--there must be no energy movement in the here asking of self equal and one
23:32:19 ‹Bernard› see terri--even that is separation--there must be no change before or after--because then it is an altered state of awareness and is mind
23:32:58 ‹Bernard› and understand mind is all that is here as man and consciousness as all knowledge--it expects equality in all ways--or will enslave

23:59:18 ‹Bernard› terri--the HoM series is to attarct people to assist--it is a version of reality--there are many--i depends who tell the story
23:59:34 ‹Bernard› in the videos are placed support to common sense and self honesty
23:59:56 ‹Bernard› the knowledge--let it go unconditionally and live in breath as common sense
00:00:34 ‹Bernard› Understand--we started the hom series at the point relevant to this process


00:02:17 ‹Bernard› yes terri--the key in each is common sense--find the common sense in the video and you will accellerate
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24/07/2008 19:09:19 ‹Osho› Terri - interdimensionally you don't have the physical to assist and support you - the physical the greatest gift imaginable and you realise this when in the dimensions how much you've taken what is here as the physical for granted

24/07/2008 19:23:20 ‹Osho› laziness will make you time-loop again and again, until the fore of you will force you to stand up forcably = wouldn't suggest that route though

ch_My room 19/07/2008 16:24:44 Bernard Aldin--I note you tend to jump into expression before you BREATH--then you end up choking a bit--slow down--breath then express and you will find it supportive and directive

ch_My room 19/07/2008 16:26:18 Bernard Another suggestion Aldin--when expressing breath with rhythmn --like assertive base support--then flow with it

ch_My room 19/07/2008 16:47:47 Bernard the scorpion holds the construct of the story of the frog and the scorpion--the nature of trust in the system

ch_My room 19/07/2008 16:49:11 Bernard memories are never real ricardo--it is how thought produce system markers

ch_My room 19/07/2008 16:50:12 Bernard lots to understand when HERe

13/07/2008 17:41:59 ‹Jack&Ruby› because it is not I am here = it is i am HERE

13/07/2008 17:43:04 ‹Jack&Ruby› In defining you as I - this manifest personality / identity = because HERE is everything, and everything is HERE - so, i am HERE, thus everything = yet nothing, no identity/personality exist HERE

13/07/2008 17:43:37 ‹Jack&Ruby› HERE is everywhere, and everywhere is HERE

13/07/2008 17:45:21 ‹Jack&Ruby› because I is an personality/identification of 'who you are' - if 'who you are' is here = then it is 'who you are' that shape/manifest reality, because who you are always confirm to you who you are

13/07/2008 17:45:47 ‹Jack&Ruby› when who you are confirm to you who you are = this is the deception

17:46:28 ‹Jack&Ruby› so nothing of who you are must exist = otherwise here is 'who you are' and you are in separation as HERE

13/07/2008 17:47:08 ‹Jack&Ruby› it is not 'who i am' here - it is i am HERE

13/07/2008 17:50:26 ‹Jack&Ruby› HERE catherine - no problems exist, as the solution is HERE - no I exist HERE = because everything is HERE

13/07/2008 17:53:17 ‹Jack&Ruby› lol solmaz - just being something means nothing - you have to 'naturally direct HERE practically'

8:02:24 ‹Jack&Ruby› lol Andrew - we'll expand on this - though primarily realise that nothing of 'who you are' must exist, meaning no personality/identification of / as self = an total re-start must occur = in this you'll realise, I'm still here

13/07/2008 18:03:50 ‹Jack&Ruby› nope, the fear exist because you've separated yourself - fear exist within personality design, so in walking through the process of going to see a doctor - you're 'removing personality designs' / identifications of you

<Sunette/Jack?>
*Here is always equal and one to who you are

Here is thus always the result of who we are

Here forms always who we are

You can never be more than who you are - i am HERE, HERE i am - you cannot be more than HERE = because HERE is HERE

It's not I here, here I AM = this is personality, design and limitation - designing you as a personality as I AM as a definition of 'who you are' limiting you HERE

everything is HERE - i am HERE

If HERE is not understood, you're eternally fucked as the I am

If HERE is not self, self does not exist = because self is just a projection as perception of HERE


*Here is the mirror in which the IMAGE of self reflects as NOW/Consciousness

thus

Here always confirm self to self--unless self change--nothing change

and unless self is all equal and one in fact here--self is just an image in a mirror

13/07/2008 18:11:50 ‹Jack&Ruby› and life is HERE

13/07/2008 18:12:51 ‹Jack&Ruby› so if self exist - self is not HERE and thus self is but a projection of here

13/07/2008 18:16:18 ‹Jack&Ruby› reality is HERE - how reality is shaped is by self = yes

13/07/2008 18:17:46 ‹Jack&Ruby› self forgiveness - you apply to stop the identities and personalities and design to which you have defined who you are - so that who you are no more exist - but self realise HERE

13/07/2008 18:48:11 ‹Bernard› Understand that no self exist when not HERE in all ways

13/07/2008 18:48:34 ‹Bernard› thus--the idea of self as programmed exist as the projected idea of self
13/07/2008 18:49:00 ‹Bernard› in lself forgiveness all is let go of to see what is HERE
13/07/2008 18:49:27 ‹Bernard› then self is birthed--new in all ways--if not--will again loop

13/07/2008 18:53:16 ‹Bernard› If the starting point do not include the certainty of the intended outcome in all possible ways it may present itself--it will not clear up

19:01:50 ‹Bernard› understand that first--one and equal as the mind and the unified field--or one is the slave of it to validate it as self

19:02:39 ‹Bernard› in this we drop all beliefs--all definition to understand that we are defining it as out presence and beliefs

13/07/2008 19:02:50 ‹Bernard› it is instant--and here will reflect who we are

13/07/2008 19:03:08 ‹Bernard› thus who we are is what is here as our idea of here

3/07/2008 19:05:47 ‹Bernard› we have become various versions of equations that jockey for power and position through validations in space and time

19:06:21 ‹Bernard› understand that here cannot be faked
13/07/2008 19:06:26 ‹Bernard› or abused

13/07/2008 19:06:56 ‹Bernard› thus only self abuse and self deception exist--all about how self is not here as all as one as equal in FACT
13/07/2008 19:07:01 ‹Bernard› thus in ACT

14/07/2008 17:56:13 ‹Faust&Gabrielle› yes, the understanding is here to a certain degree instantaneously - though, just understanding is still knowledge and information = you have to practically live understanding here - to self realise here

18:05:42 ‹Faust&Gabrielle› Niklas - gums, the words you're speaking still contain constructs of mind = observe when engaging in conversation, how you'd access memories/thoughts to 'suit the moment and beings within it' instead of being self honest as the words you speak

8:15:19 ‹Faust&Gabrielle› and as you do this Bella - self forgiveness - you script the self correction - and apply the self correction = living the 'correction' so to speak

14/07/2008 18:17:00 ‹Faust&Gabrielle› meaning within the self forgiveness - that which you have forgiven, you so how you can transform the construct into self honest self expression = from here you write the 'correction' = then practically live the 'correction

53:17 Bernard: no time--the moment is not in time--if you are not prepared you will not notice--in breath you have the timeless moment in between breaths where you may notice if self honesty actually exist

55:21 Bernard: suppression is a beliefsystem manifested as an idea of self within and as the flesh

08:19 Bernard: it is not about caring--that is self suppression and dishonesty

08:48 Bernard: hear--if you have self realized all is self aware one ane equal--it is inevitable to be so inall ways


10:33 Bernard: to wonder is to wander in the mind hoping for a wand of magic

14:17 Bernard: the question is who am I as all as one as equals in one body as self

14:57 Bernard: terri--it is not about more or less--it is about who you are here as all as one as equal in one body as self
16:15 Bernard: self is self--if not yet realized--then it is not self--but self as seen through a construct


07/07/2008 20:20:46 ‹Alice B.› Joao - I'd take for instance a word such as '***' for example as what you're working with - place the word before me in writing and see from here what thoughts/reactions come up - and then from here applying self forgiveness on each point that come up aloud = you'll see you'll go deeper as you continue = if nothing comes, a blank = you know you're suppressing, then you start with self forgivenes

07/07/2008 20:20:52 ‹Alice B.› on suppression for example



07/07/2008 20:27:46 ‹Alice B.› The mind has leves yes Terri - but you as all and everything of you is here = so you don't exist in levels, defining you according to levels is limitation and accepted enslavement/separation

07/07/2008 20:38:24 ‹Alice B.› Alex, you're separating you from all as one as equal - when you work with what is here as your direct experence - you're assisting and supporting you as all as one as equal = because you are that

07/07/2008 20:42:51 ‹Alice B.› oneness and equality exist always in all ways - you are one and equal to what you accept/allow you to be and manifest/experience you in this accordingly - so you're always one and equal deedra, the difference though so to speak is who you are within and as oneness and equality

07/07/2008 20:48:15 ‹Alice B.› Terri - be the example, live you in self honesty = don't try and want to do more = this is futured mind projection = be you in self honest stability in every moment and trust you within self honest common sense

07/07/2008 20:56:15 ‹Alice B.› introverted and extroverted is the manifested physical expression of the polarity beingness within superiorty and inferiorty Ricardo

20:58:54 ‹Alice B.› Deedra - seeing the future is useless = you will realise this for yourself, you wanting to know/even curious about the future indicate you're still accepting/allowing you to be controlled by the future = the future must be irrelevent and actually not exist, all that must exist is you here

06/07/2008 19:34:13 ‹Jack&Ruby› In other words Leila - when you 'fear others' - it actually indicate you fear that part of yourself which you fear in others = fearing others as you

06/07/2008 19:38:44 ‹Jack&Ruby› you'll see eric - the fear is related to pictures as memory in your mind only which contain you in fear - stop the thoughts and forgive the memories = and watch movies with shooting and in it test you and do self forgiveness as you watch and see what comes up - so you self correct you in practical application

19:40:20 ‹Jack&Ruby› Adele - still family related to past = still holding onto past experiences to which you're defining you = observe when writing for instance = are you writing the past = or are you 'righting you' / correcting you within your writing

06/07/2008 19:42:36 ‹Bernard› Fear of PAIN and PAYING for CONsequences

04/07/2008 19:35:40 ‹Lilly&Veno› lol Ruben - trust yourself, assist and support you in translating, because within translating you'll assist and support you to see/realise where/what you're not yet living as you - then self correct you so in practical application

03/07/2008 19:02:55 ‹Jack&Ruby› Eric - still trying to place yourself into the understanding of what self expression is - though you're linking it to '***' / '***uality' = when self expression is who I am here in every moment

03/07/2008 19:06:16 ‹Jack&Ruby› Jospeh - self forgiveness, until the memory comes up and you have no reaction within you and all you say is: STOP - I will not participate - eventually as you become more specific, you'll be able to stop a thought before it enters your mind - very cool shit

03/07/2008 19:13:19 ‹Jack&Ruby› lol Eric - be self trust = then it's not about getting over something, but simply self realisation

19:21:39 ‹Jack&Ruby› lol Maite - you're still too concerned of/with other's - fear of conflict Maite = will have to face it = and if you make a miss take, know and trust you that you will direct the situation effectively within being the solution


12:09:40 ‹Bernard› only self will change--and the through active participation--eventually the world will recreate to a sustainable environment for life from which the next phase will flow

30/06/2008 12:10:22 ‹Bernard› cool to do the slef forgiveness--there will come a time where this must be lived--where self must forcibly move and change reality

30/06/2008 12:10:59 ‹Bernard› because reality is a projection of self as the image and likeness of self

30/06/2008 12:11:52 ‹Bernard› the inner and outer must be one and equal in self honesty

30/06/2008 12:12:04 ‹Bernard› in this self forgiveness is the process of self realiztion

30/06/2008 12:11:52 ‹Bernard› the inner and outer must be one and equal in self honesty
30/06/2008 12:12:04 ‹Bernard› in this self forgiveness is the process of self realiztion

30/06/2008 12:12:31 ‹Bernard› the realization that self created all inner and outer realities in all ways

12:12:54 ‹Bernard› self honesty is the point to make sure no justification is allowed

30/06/2008 12:13:10 ‹Bernard› to make sure something is not intellectulies
30/06/2008 12:14:09 ‹Bernard› thus--practical self honesty is where one do the living part different and fins effective ways to face what is in reality--thus to expose self to ridicule to check if self is self honest

12:15:08 ‹Bernard› self honesty is the one point in every moment where a conflict develop between what is best for all and what is best for self
30/06/2008 12:15:24 ‹Bernard› currently best for self win every time--and thus all suffer

30/06/2008 12:15:53 ‹Bernard› when it is realized that what is best for all is best for self--self honesty is in action

30/06/2008 12:16:23 ‹Bernard› see the common sense in this--best for all includes self--and excludes no one

30/06/2008 12:40:48 ‹Bernard› thus--I suggest through self action--it is certainly easier than be forced by events

30/06/2008 12:40:57 ‹Bernard› to be events driven is slavery
30/06/2008 12:41:04 ‹Bernard› to be self driven is freedom

12:41:59 ‹Bernard› see the common sense--each person will be forced to do what must be done to solve the dilemma--we found in each person a point where change actually happens

30/06/2008 12:42:07 ‹Bernard› a tough point--but a certain one

30/06/2008 12:49:36 ‹Bernard› the mind is perfection that simmulates perfectly exactly who each being is

30/06/2008 12:49:54 ‹Bernard› and that brings all together as a hollographic intgerated reality

30/06/2008 13:13:45 ‹Bernard› thus--all beings are stimulus response preprogrammed--and thus their lives are predictable
30/06/2008 13:19:51 ‹Bernard› nope ruben--the dimensions are not allowed to help and free people from their self dishonesty--that would be dishonest


30/06/2008 13:22:08 ‹Bernard› only common sense will prevail
30/06/2008 13:22:28 ‹Bernard› and no direct answer will be given--because each actually know the real truth about themselves

30/06/2008 13:27:20 ‹Bernard› understand that self is a garden--with nany SEEds that grow into illusions of fruit as knowledge--that is the nature oif man

30/06/2008 13:27:36 ‹Bernard› and that nature in this world is the image and likeness of the nature of man

30/06/2008 13:28:04 ‹Bernard› thus all the killing of animals of each as animals to eat---and the ticks and shit

30/06/2008 13:28:17 ‹Bernard› that is the nature of man manifested as mother nature

30/06/2008 13:28:42 ‹Bernard› and it he way mothers train the nature of children into survival of the fittest

30/06/2008 18:30:19 ‹Bernard› make sure to note patterns that you normally follow and dicard them unconditionally

18:38:16 ‹Bernard› Stubbornness is a big one--the want to be right thing

30/06/2008 18:47:40 ‹Bernard› yes terri--several points

對 Terri --- 有幾點

30/06/2008 18:48:09 ‹Bernard› mostly pride and greed and desire for greatness

大部份都是自傲, 和貪婪, 和渴望成為舉足輕重的人

30/06/2008 18:54:03 ‹Bernard› we studied all--the void--the nothingness--everything we could find--was great fun while it lasted--but we cannot remain in it--because it is now only knowledge
30/06/2008 18:54:32 ‹Bernard› we found the first sound--the first movement and all kinds of stuff
30/06/2008 18:54:41 ‹Bernard› there is a first movement

我們全部都把所有一切研究過 -- 什麼真空/空間 -- 不存在的狀態 -- 我們找到的所有一切 -- 當它們短暫存在時, 都是極有趣的体驗 -- 但是我們不能夠永遠保持這種狀態 -- 因為現在它們都變成了只是智識/學識
我們找到了第一個出現的聲 -- 第一個移動, 和各種諸如此類的東西
是的, 第一個移動是存在的


30/06/2008 18:58:12 ‹Bernard› nope ricardo--it was races--thus separation

30/06/2008 18:58:41 ‹Bernard› all racing to find an answer--each with their own idea that became religion and thus race is manifested religion

30/06/2008 19:10:25 ‹Bernard› then one must walk away

30/06/2008 19:11:28 ‹Bernard› to allow the being to go up in flames--because by becoming the inner conflict of the being--you live in the mind of the being as the conflict

30/06/2008 19:20:24 ‹Bernard› mind is what you deny yourself in self dishonesty--and through polarity you empower your denials

29/06/2008 20:53:50 ‹Bernard› ann--becauseit assist and make sure that nothing is hidden--and the moist difficult thing in this world is to always honest with the people closest to you

29/06/2008 20:54:05 ‹Bernard› because one tend to think--they do not need to knwo--they will judge me

20:54:18 ‹Bernard› that is not a relationship--that is dependency

28/06/2008 18:33:40 ‹Bernard› Where you are not clear in the words--will damage the throat--like needles scratching

28/06/2008 18:34:06 ‹Bernard› Thus--do self forgiveness a statement of self

28/06/2008 18:35:28 ‹Bernard› sf as a statement as self--thus really expressing self

28/06/2008 18:40:50 ‹Bernard› Self forgiveness I use--without expectation--to allow that in the moment I am not one as--to unfold

28/06/2008 18:41:31 ‹Bernard› It is like using self forgiveness to remove my idea of the moment to see what is really here

28/06/2008 18:45:43 ‹Bernard› I find answers are self in expression--and thus is never more than self in expression

28/06/2008 18:49:25 ‹Bernard› All that is here as now is what has been already as self--that is why we are trapped in it as it

28/06/2008 18:50:09 ‹Bernard› Thus-- a choice seem to exist--but not really--because to be self in every breath as the ONE in the moment is the living self

28/06/2008 18:50:20 ‹Bernard› and that is not a choice--but is living

28/06/2008 18:50:46 ‹Bernard› because resistance is the key to the moment--and self as system always resist self as life

28/06/2008 19:49:07 ‹Bernard› time and space do not exist but as a moment stretched with a beginning and end--this is only one moment that last billions of years

28/06/2008 19:49:57 ‹Bernard› yes--and then to get back in--thus--the body is self here--and being in or out the body makes no difference
28/06/2008 19:55:12 ‹Bernard› Understand that I will not give the actual answer--because it cannot be given--by no one--it must be seen as self and proven in all ways by self for self as all as equals as one


28/06/2008 19:59:38 ‹Bernard› When I realized we are equal and one--I realized that I am the one in every moment That I am--if I am not the one of the moment--then I am not yet

28/06/2008 20:00:06 ‹Bernard› and thus here we have a tool--the breath--in every moment to rewalize no matter where we are--we are the one--a

28/06/2008 20:00:20 ‹Bernard› and accordingly we create ourselves in all ways--
28/06/2008 20:00:29 ‹Bernard› and even illusion cannot contain us



26/06/2008 18:55:56 ‹Bernard› aldin--self forgiveness must be able to be done anywhere--aloud as well--it is quite cool. if one can sit in a meeting and do forgiveness if required

18:56:27 ‹Bernard› when self forgiveness is done and self is stable silent--self trust develop

26/06/2008 20:32:59 ‹The Devil› this name is going nowhere for this name is already who i am
26/06/2008 20:33:00 ‹› you are the head your name is getting ot

26/06/2008 20:33:48 ‹The Devil› well, i don't know what you mean by that and frankly, i don't want to know... knowledge is just a barrier to my innocent self expression

26/06/2008 20:34:26 ‹The Devil› knowledge is what keeps me from expressing myself as freely as i truly am
26/06/2008 20:34:52 ‹The Devil› so i say, **** knowledge - it is but a scheme used by the mind to control my innocent expression
26/06/2008 20:35:07 ‹The Devil› so, i am not the mind

26/06/2008 20:36:22 ‹The Devil› what i do is defined by the realms of this world but i am not defined by what this world uses as a definition of itself
26/06/2008 20:36:57 ‹The Devil› so i do not need to do something to myself in order to become what i already am
26/06/2008 20:37:16 ‹The Devil› i only have to re - member what i am already and start expressing myself from this starting point

26/06/2008 20:38:07 ‹The Devil› now, look at my name backwards - Lived
26/06/2008 20:38:15 ‹The Devil› doesn't that say something of what i am?
26/06/2008 20:38:31 ‹The Devil› and look at my name without the D - Evil
26/06/2008 20:38:40 ‹The Devil› and make that name backwards - Live

26/06/2008 20:39:20 ‹The Devil› the mind fears the being for the mind knows the being is all there is
26/06/2008 20:40:03 ‹The Devil› the mind doesn't want the being to be all there is - the mind wants the mind to be all there is -- but it is impossible --- it can only be attain trhough deceptions ---- deceiving the being into believing that the being is not what the being is

26/06/2008 20:42:34 ‹The Devil› go wash your pussy leila!
26/06/2008 20:42:36 ‹The Devil› lol
26/06/2008 20:42:42 ‹The Devil› now, what is pussy?
26/06/2008 20:42:45 ‹Leila› ok brb
26/06/2008 20:42:56 ‹The Devil› it is only the combination of the letters p+u+s+s+y
26/06/2008 20:43:03 ‹The Devil› taken individually, each letters are innocent
26/06/2008 20:43:23 ‹The Devil› so why make the combinated letters that forms the word 'pussy' guilty of some kind of shame?
26/06/2008 20:43:35 ‹The Devil› the word is as innocent as the letters that composes it

26/06/2008 20:44:04 ‹The Devil› now, nobody would be offended if i were to say P in relation to Pussy?
26/06/2008 20:44:49 ‹The Devil› but why is it that we are offended when we combine P with u with s with s with y?????
26/06/2008 20:45:04 ‹The Devil› it is because of the relationship that is generated within the specific combination of letters
26/06/2008 20:46:56 ‹The Devil› remove the relationship and get back to the lowest common denominator that composes the structured constellation of letters - go back to the individual letter and infuse the meaning of the individual letter to the whole chain of letters which composes the word --- thus, you will expand innocence within and as the word in it's entirety, instead of seeing the word as being different than the
26/06/2008 20:47:04 ‹The Devil› meaning behind the individual letters
26/06/2008 20:47:36 ‹The Devil› the word generated by any combination of letters is as innocent as it's building blocks
26/06/2008 20:48:14 ‹The Devil› now, no one is offended by an individual letter - so do not be offended by a series of letters forming a word - because the word is just as innocent as it's foundation

26/06/2008 21:09:17 ‹The Devil› now, who am i within all those subjects that keeps on popping up in my awareness?
26/06/2008 21:09:38 ‹The Devil› it is not the name which makes me
26/06/2008 21:09:41 ‹The Devil› i am not this name
26/06/2008 21:09:46 ‹The Devil› this name is only a pointer
26/06/2008 21:09:51 ‹The Devil› i am not a pointer
26/06/2008 21:09:59 ‹The Devil› a pointer points to some thing - a source
26/06/2008 21:10:04 ‹The Devil› but the pointer is not the source

26/06/2008 21:13:59 ‹The Devil› but to play with the mind, it can be fun to imagine all the different pictures that can be related to my name
26/06/2008 21:14:58 ‹The Devil› but that is only mind play... but a good play at that, for it supports in removing the stupid relations that one has when thinking of the name satan
26/06/2008 21:15:20 ‹The Devil› i say stupid because of the obvious fact that the 26/06/2008 21:16:26 ‹The Devil› and arbitrary - it has all been created by a "big mind" who sought control over "small minds" by instilling images of fear within the name Devil so that the 'small minded people' would abide to the rules given by the 'big minded one"
the images which is portrayed by the name devil, as images which are normaly seen by the body has being menacing like... but completely arbitrary since relating to a cultural context which differs from region to region

26/06/2008 21:20:21 ‹The liveD› if you let me become you
26/06/2008 21:20:46 ‹The liveD› then express yourself like if you were not ann
26/06/2008 21:20:53 ‹The liveD› express yourself like if you never knew what ann was
26/06/2008 21:21:00 ‹The liveD› like you never knew what ann meant
26/06/2008 21:21:08 ‹The liveD› like you never knew what ann experimented

26/06/2008 21:21:44 ‹The liveD› make sure that your expressions are not filtered by any desires whatsoever

26/06/2008 21:23:27 ‹The liveD› then stop giving your power to the belief that you are programmed by the mass media
26/06/2008 21:23:45 ‹The liveD› and just express yourself as if you are one and equal to the mass media - no sepaartion

26/06/2008 21:24:45 ‹The liveD› you cannot change what happenned so why analyse where you started to change? this change that started within you is only in relation with the personality system that you still cling to as being who you are
26/06/2008 21:24:48 ‹The liveD› change is here
26/06/2008 21:24:51 ‹The liveD› i am change
26/06/2008 21:24:54 ‹The liveD› change is constant
26/06/2008 21:25:20 ‹The liveD› it is not something that occured in the past and stopped for a moment only to come back when the personality system sees it's manifestation
26/06/2008 21:26:03 ‹The liveD› that's why here cannot be grasped - here is the very manifestation of change
26/06/2008 21:26:11 ‹The liveD› it changes as soon as you think you grasp it


26/06/2008 21:29:08 ‹The liveD› life as the personality system is such a cherished moment
26/06/2008 21:29:21 ‹The liveD› just as the moment where one eats ice cream is a cherished moment
26/06/2008 21:29:56 ‹The liveD› when the ice cream is eaten, then the moment ends... then the moment dies... then the experience of the joy of eating ice cream endsd
26/06/2008 21:30:01 ‹The liveD› but you are still here
26/06/2008 21:30:11 ‹The liveD› waiting for the next moment to cherish
26/06/2008 21:30:19 ‹The liveD› waiting for the next ice cream cup to eat
26/06/2008 21:30:31 ‹The liveD› all the wile forgetting that you are that which is cherishing the moment
26/06/2008 21:31:01 ‹The liveD› death is a transition from one cherished moment to the next - no matter how long that cherished moment may be perceived as being --- as in a lifetime

26/06/2008 21:31:01 ‹The liveD› death is a transition from one cherished moment to the next - no matter how long that cherished moment may be perceived as being --- as in a lifetime
26/06/2008 21:32:03 ‹The liveD› death is here
26/06/2008 21:32:16 ‹The liveD› death is manifested at each iteration of breath
26/06/2008 21:32:31 ‹The liveD› one moment dies as the next begins - at the same time
26/06/2008 21:32:50 ‹The liveD› death and life are one and the same - no separation
26/06/2008 21:33:04 ‹The liveD› it is only the memory of the mind which makes us perceive otherwise

26/06/2008 21:34:56 ‹The liveD› as you are aware, only the mind refuses Here as it's true home... for the mind is afraid of the undefined and here is forever undefined
26/06/2008 21:35:17 ‹The liveD› can you make the mind undefined?


6/06/2008 21:37:46 ‹kimamourette› i dont understand that one either
26/06/2008 21:37:51 ‹The liveD› if you knew what ti means, would you react differently?
26/06/2008 21:38:12 ‹kimamourette› dunno
26/06/2008 21:38:15 ‹The liveD› do you seek to know so that you can react in another way than the way you react when you are faced with the unknown?
26/06/2008 21:38:41 ‹The liveD› you don't know what it means - thus you are now experimenting what you express when faced with the unknown
26/06/2008 21:38:56 ‹The liveD› this moment is of support for you
26/06/2008 21:39:05 ‹The liveD› for it shows you how you react to who you truly are

26/06/2008 21:41:40 ‹The liveD› there is never a moment wehre you are not in a communication with yourself
26/06/2008 21:41:50 ‹The liveD› you just have to listen to yourself
26/06/2008 21:42:02 ‹The liveD› listen to your silences... they speak more than the words you use
26/06/2008 21:42:20 ‹The liveD› listen to your body... your body expresses the words that the mind doesn't know how to express

26/06/2008 21:51:08 ‹The liveD› yes Kim, push yourself out of your mind
26/06/2008 21:51:15 ‹The liveD› and place yourself as the body
26/06/2008 21:51:27 ‹The liveD› for the body is all that you are -- the body is all as one as equal as life
26/06/2008 21:51:32 ‹The liveD› the mind is nowhere
26/06/2008 21:51:35 ‹The liveD› the body is here

16/06/2008 17:15:14 ‹Alice B.› lol Matti - this is because beings 'think' that if they 'say something' it's all that is required - understand that they've never lived/applied themselves ever and believe that words spoken is all there is

17:15:14 ‹Alice B.› lol Matti - this is because beings 'think' that if they 'say something' it's all that is required - understand that they've never lived/applied themselves ever and believe that words spoken is all there is

13/06/2008 18:01:48 ‹Bernard› kim--just bring all here as breath to oneness and equality and delete

13/06/2008 18:06:04 ‹Bernard› all games are ***ual in nature as it builds exitement and then either a win or lose--an upper or downer--depending where you are at that moment in the energy feeding frenzy
13/06/2008 18:06:19 ‹Bernard› if it is not your turn--you lose--if it is your turn--you win

13/06/2008 18:13:28 ‹Bernard› in a way aldin--you die through self honesty and self forgiveness and re-emerge as a "new" being--to make sure that no-one hold existence in enslavement--certain decisions were made to draw a line for all here
13/06/2008 18:16:45 ‹Bernard› each must support self--thus support is to not allow separation

13/06/2008 18:50:18 ‹Bernard› if one allow some one elses words to be your words--without making sure you self honestly are that--you are crewed through the ears
13/06/2008 18:51:23 ‹Bernard› that is how hypnosis work--hyper notes--frequencies that activate believesin the subconscious--these words then act as god

13/06/2008 18:53:16 ‹Bernard› the fruit of the tree of knowledge is the words and the meaning given to the words

13/06/2008 18:56:41 ‹Bernard› nope gabs--nothing stand for anything but the value given to it
13/06/2008 18:56:54 ‹Bernard› we give power to all words that are here in this reality

13/06/2008 18:58:21 ‹Bernard› yes aldin--as the living word--live only words you are willing to experience as all as one as equal
12/06/2008 20:59:56 ‹Bernard› this reality are the pages of a comic book--like marvel comics--all trying to be god in a way


21:17:20 ‹Bernard› no paul--their is no middle ground or achievement--all equal in a process of equalizing to one beingness
12/06/2008 21:21:06 ‹Bernard› Have a look--if the desires of man must manifest--there will be no society left--only lunatics


21:23:14 ‹Bernard› actually play the desire out--like wishing to fly--then fly and see all that must be considered--you will crash many times before you reach the shop--and be splashed like a bug

12/06/2008 21:32:29 ‹Bernard› ricardo--dimensions are hell--in all ways--imagine facing all thoughts and actions of all lives face to face with those you harmed

12/06/2008 21:35:37 ‹Bernard› when you die--you recall all lives--all events are HERE

12/06/2008 21:38:52 ‹Bernard› see the common sense in what I present--the key is common sense as that allows all to face themselves in all ways= equal and one

12/06/2008 21:53:07 ‹Bernard› suffering after death is worst than a nightmare as all thoughts become real
12/06/2008 21:56:04 ‹Bernard› we have to find who we really are as life in self trust of each other as you as me--or we will be no more


21:57:36 ‹Bernard› individual expressions do not exist beyond memory marlen--and memory is bound to mind--and mind is bound to physicality--see--no way out


12/06/2008 22:02:25 ‹Bernard› there would be kim--we will only assist some directly-- the rest will get it--through common sense--just like me--I was the testing ground--to see if it could be done without asistence

會有的 Kim--我們只會直接協助一部份的人類-- 其餘的人都會-- 最終透過常識明白理解-- 就像(過往的)我一樣-- 我當時就是一個(自我走向生命的)測試平台-- 看一看我在沒有支援下能否完成(走往平等生命)

12/06/2008 22:04:05 ‹Bernard› see--when the mind control it says--in the beginning was the word and the word was god
12/06/2008 22:04:17 ‹Bernard› thus become the words in self honesty and you fuick the system/mind

看一看--當(您)被心智控制了的時候, 它說--太初有道,道與神同在,道就是神(In the beginning was the word and the word was god), 因此當您自我誠實地化身成為(您的)字時, 您就媽的搞砸了系統/心智


22:04:55 ‹Bernard› yes lloyd--self forgiveness is the only way--there is only one way where all will be equal in accepting responsiblity--that is self forgiveness
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22:04:55 ‹Bernard› yes lloyd--self forgiveness is the only way--there is only one way where all will be equal in accepting responsiblity--that is self forgiveness

12/06/2008 18:30:44 ‹Marilyn & Bruce› Leila - removing the wisdom teeth is removing the wisdom as defined within knowledge and information of mind as the accepted and allowed definition of 'living/being' - then within this, you have to assist and support you to express self wisdom, which is actually common sense, see = wisdom as knowledge and information of mind was 'replaced' with common sense = therefore, common sense in self...

12/06/2008 18:35:05 ‹Marilyn & Bruce› Terri, have to share with your children as you your own experiences - and asisst and support them as you to live in self honesty = this is the key: self honesty in every moment not accepting/allowign thoughts to delegate

12/06/2008 18:55:03 ‹Marilyn & Bruce› AP - can't just say delete - you have to practically in every moment stop want and hate and stand up in every moment, because it's become the nature of you - and to transform the nature of you is a process if standing up in every moment


12/06/2008 Bernard: Nope—not necessarily. It could be assistance to show you where you’re allowing your mind to engage because if thinking exists, self dishonesty exists. This is related to thinking. When self honesty is HERE, you start and become a process of self-realization and as the layers of thinking are removed until you reach NOTHING. In NOTHING, the self MAY emerge if one is one as self and equal as NOTHING. Thus, HUMILITY. HUMILITY all is NOTHING. It’s a process NO ONE will or CAN escape. Self-honesty is the only way where ALL will be ONE AND EQUAL. This is COMMON SENSE. That which JUSTIFIES or DIVIDES is simply stopped because power is given in the participation and the anticipation while the breath is really all—from the first breath of a child till the last at death—one breath—one life—one truth—what self allowed self to be and only self may change self—or may not. That is then what self will experience. And no-one can do this for another.

10/06/2008 17:53:21 ‹Mykey› though what's interesting, is that desire is how the mind ****s - because desire is human beings' weak point, because desire is an illusion of mind and human beings always chase after desire = yet desire will never manifest, as it's a 'placement' through which you're caught in the mind to remain enslaved to the mind through desire

10/06/2008 17:56:02 ‹Mykey› Alex, because you're still waiting for motivation, someone to come and lift you up and give you direction - you have to live self motivation, and this is you remaining stable here in every moment of breath, such tiredness indicate you're waiting instead of living = so you also have to look at the perception/idea you have of 'fun'/'living'/'existing' = still accepting/allowing comparison

10/06/2008 17:57:39 ‹Mykey› That's when they're dependency on the system manifest Gabriel, where they depend on others to entertain them, keep them busy

10/06/2008 18:00:25 ‹Mykey› Ann, self enjoyment - have to do a document to give perspective, of my experience within it - or rather Osho would place it quite well as well - though primarily self enjoyment is when you're not stimulated by something/someone or environment or situation to enjoy you - for instance: I want to go to the beach - it'll be fun and I'll enjoy me there = self dishonesty

18:03:24 ‹Mykey› lol Ann,you're still trying to understand self enjoyment from a world's perspective - linking/connecting enjoyment to 'having to do something' = not about enjoying/enjoyment in itself = it's SELF enjoyment
10/06/2008 18:05:00 ‹Mykey› I enjoy mySELF in that which I am participating - one and equal with me here

06/06/2008 17:55:33 ‹Bruce L.› words are the sword spoken and expressed through within and as the tongue within and as the human physical body - the sword as word by which I live or die - by which I live: when the word is me as the living word, by which I die: when the words are separate from me and the sentences I speak, sentence me to the imprisonment of myself in enslavement of that which I have separated me from

06/06/2008 18:03:51 ‹Bruce L.› oh please fine me a location = application, though within the word application being lived as self here one and equal -the word is self, application = I apply me in this here location (of me)

06/06/2008 18:06:07 ‹Bruce L.› Alex P - it's not to be 'free of something' as this would be separation, it is SELF freedom in expression here - self freedom is here when you are not conditioned or defined according to anything/anyone of this existence in separation - self freedom only exist here in every moment of breath when you self expression you here one and equal as all as life in self honesty

06/06/2008 18:09:53 ‹Bruce L.› Ricardo - not about what you do that influence the body persay, but who you are within and as the physical human body = self presence

06/06/2008 18:11:44 ‹Bruce L.› Alex, blanks in your mind is cool - the 'blanks in your mind' would be you indicating to you, that you're trying to write through the mind instead of writing you here - so when you have a 'blank mind' = WONDERFUL, because it's you indicating to you to realise that you're using the mind instead of self expressing you

05/06/2008 17:48:10 ‹Bernard› when one place yourself in the outcome of your actions and realize you will face the being again one day--self honesty becomes easier
05/06/2008 17:48:50 ‹Bernard› realize this--you will face EVERY one again you have ever met --even if it was ONLY IN THOUGHT
05/06/2008 17:49:28 ‹Bernard› that is self honesty realized--sort it out so that you are NOT ASHAMED when you meet again

05/06/2008 17:50:45 ‹Bernard› that is what caused havoc in the dimensions--because when all was suddenly revealed--the truth of each was known to ALL

05/06/2008 18:11:44 ‹Bernard› yes and no--it is the how to--plan--then let it go to be free in the moment and adjust the plan if necessary
05/06/2008 18:12:12 ‹Bernard› all plants are processed shit ‹Bernard› when a plan takes the moment of the bresth--the plan is not acceptable--as life as breath is missed as a system ‹Bernard› breath


‹joaojesus› Bernard, do u see interdimensionally?
‹Bernard› jesus--I see sound ‹Bernard› here--whole

‹Bernard› we are always HERE and the dimensions is HERE
‹Bernard› and everywhere is HERE

‹Bernard› same thing alext--relationships are emotions--emotions requir connections to exist
04/06/2008 17:52:08 ‹Phillip› sally, do not undermine yourself - do that which you know you can do effectivelt and sufficiently, in doing so - you will from here expand yourself: Have to start somewhere - otherwise you will go looking for something and never find it - when the starting point is always you here in that which you know you can do effectively


04/06/2008 17:56:43 ‹Phillip› Alex P - most prominently it is a manner of speaking due to the conditionings of society/friends in particular - you will within this process naturally begin to re-asses the words you speak - where words will be self spoken within self awareness - each word specific and self directive

04/06/2008 18:14:51 ‹Phillip› Sally, resentment towards someone is when you blame a being for something within you and your world, when the truth of the situation is actually that you're responsible for you and your world and no-one else is to blame - so resentment kept within towards someone, is when you do not want to take self responsibility, but hide behind blame which inevitably manifest resentment

03/06/2008 21:36:40 ‹Fidelis› well, when you sleep you are basicly dead, i mean, where do you go????
03/06/2008 21:37:09 ‹Fidelis› you go to bed, die, and then reborn the next day
03/06/2008 21:37:56 ‹Fidelis› but then we take our previous life(yesterday) and bring it with us
03/06/2008 21:39:27 ‹Fidelis› why not wake up everymorning with a clean slate, this mind interferes to much, or i allow it to

02/06/2008 18:11:39 ‹Anton L.› I'd say this whole world is suicide's - that's why suicide exists, we kill ourselves in this reality - either fast by self which is referred to as suicide or long and drawn out which is referred to as death - lol
02/06/2008 18:13:34 ‹Anton L.› So - we have to stop the killing in this world of ourselves and all of ourselves - by living here in and as breath, and not being death walking on two legs programmed to be how and what you are -but be authentic in self expression here

02/06/2008 18:15:55 ‹Anton L.› Guys, understand when someone dies in this reality - and you ask for them, / of them - realise that all are here in this reality within a human physical body/physical expression within process - in this, we're all equal and one within and as process - yet, not yet equal and one as life as self = which is why we're here = self realisation

02/06/2008 18:16:35 ‹Anton L.› Terri - self expression simple: It's who you are here in every moment of breath 02/06/2008 18:39:51 ‹Anton L.› lol Alex - this proces is about 'who I am' here in every moment of breath


02/06/2008 18:50:05 ‹Anton L.› lol Andrew - instead of you being the words, not realising that the words you speak is you assisting and supporting you to live you within this process of self correction/transformation

02/06/2008 19:21:13 ‹Farmer Brown› yes ivan--very with many projections of apparent solutions after death--what a shock when after death is as fokked as here
02/06/2008 19:21:49 ‹Farmer Brown› the chinese says--the more laws--the more criminals

02/06/2008 19:22:20 ‹Farmer Brown› the children follow examples not words
02/06/2008 19:22:39 ‹Farmer Brown› and advertising are setting the examples for the children as well as TV

31/05/2008 20:21:44 ‹Jack› The spoken word and living word as one and equal as self

30/05/2008 17:37:31 ‹Mykey› you are one and equal here with you in and as breath = this is what is to be self realised and lived
30/05/2008 17:52:16 ‹Mykey› lol Leila, you're in this physical world, though also, when working with 'heavy stuff' - remain here in and as breath - they I'm here, because the soreness/stifness is not being self presence within doing the lifting


30/05/2008 17:58:49 ‹Mykey› Leila, where there's self will, there's a way - you're able to take the experience and transform it - absolutely - though this is dependent on you, yourself
30/05/2008 18:00:37 ‹Mykey› Leila, you will find that whatever you do within this world will be a means to support you while within and as your process and that you're able to transform that which you've learned, for you within self honesty for all

30/05/2008 18:09:09 ‹Mykey› Adrian - you're here because of you - so you give you the oppertunity to live you, instead of trying to live through others, existing in their worlds and reality

19:58:54 ‹Jack› Terri - understand that being a Portal is a process - it's about 'who I am' - your 'first step' - is establishing and living self honesty as you for you and actually living self honesty in practical application here in every moment
20:02:40 ‹Jack› Being a Portal Terri - is a manifested self expression of and as self = who I am

28/05/2008 18:08:36 ‹Bernard› understand that the unverse as consciousness is ruled by BALANCE
28/05/2008 18:09:08 ‹Bernard› that is what even keep the planets in place
28/05/2008 18:09:33 ‹Bernard› balance is what determines what happens in the smaller and the greater
28/05/2008 18:10:12 ‹Bernard› In a closed prison when some want to be special--balance dictates some one must suffer

25/05/2008 18:21:49 ‹Lilly› Alex - it is to be: I work, I'm here - that's it, not about liking/disliking - I'm here and I do what is necessary to be done - the dislike/like = both mind polarity manifestation

23/05/2008 20:34:45 ‹Bernard› Self is the points, all points as all origins as all sources

23/05/2008 21:03:14 ‹Bernard› Each process is alone about self
23/05/2008 21:03:40 ‹Bernard› self realization is not possible unless self do it for and as self
23/05/2008 21:04:00 ‹Bernard› there was no way a portal would open if this was not clearly realized
23/05/2008 21:04:35 ‹Bernard› The portal thus is simply the process through which we all return to the stars so to speak--lol

23/05/2008 17:48:21 ‹Mykey› we're all cloned - clones of those that have gone before us - thus, we must stop existing as clones and be the origin as self as 'who I am' - not 'the clone that came to be'

18:17:50 ‹Mykey› Lloyd - you're coming through - you'll experience the communication much more comfortable when your starting point is simply: I'm here and I speak = that's it

18:26:18 ‹Mykey› companionship = championship = competition - needing someone to compete with to validate self definition of self of the mind - interesting

21/05/2008 11:15:12 ‹M. Teresa› absolutely - I was 'pointing it out' to assist you from the perspective of ensuring you don't buy into the belief that writing a book is 'not enough' 21/05/2008 11:15:18 ‹M. Teresa› lol
21/05/2008 11:16:37 ‹M. Teresa› because in essence - it's not about the book itself = the book is you - the words are you - it's all you = this is me, who I am

21/05/2008 11:25:54 ‹M. Teresa› I still do also - and I find this only occur when i'm not here in and as breath - but I've been 'lead by something or someone' - lead-astray so to speak for a moment, and I wasn't self directive = time-loop manifestation this is
21/05/2008 11:27:12 ‹M. Teresa› Um, for instance when you get 'drawn' into something or someone = 'mesmerized' so to speak = automation-mode

21/05/2008 11:29:30 ‹M. Teresa› 'opened up' meaning - that the experience was quite profound, 'standing out' so to speak - yes, day-dreaming also an example - and 'opened up' from the perspective of having the ability to describe the experience more specifically into and as words

21/05/2008 11:32:01 ‹M. Teresa› actually to simply stop it - because stopping it is the moment of self awareness in practical application - because you realise 'this isn't me'
21/05/2008 11:33:12 ‹M. Teresa› Yes, though that is how one 'climb out of automation-mode' until it no more exist = and self-assert self here

21/05/2008 11:34:17 ‹M. Teresa› yip, that's when the mind steers you - now you're in the process of being the drive(r) of and as you = and no more the mind
21/05/2008 11:42:45 ‹M. Teresa› Leila - occasionally yes, though at the moment I'm specifically with a woman in Greece - a prostitute
21/05/2008 11:43:41 ‹M. Teresa› well, it's also very much related to me within my process - how i prostituted me to religion/belief/god

21/05/2008 11:51:24 ‹M. Teresa› marianne - realise this: The children, your children will be fine - as you will be fine - walk through this experience here - stop the anger build-ups within you, walk in clarity, directness and common sense simplicity here - stabilize you when that anger wants to come, because realise, you cannot direct you or a situation effectively within anger which 'clouds' you


21/05/2008 12:01:28 ‹M. Teresa› did you direct you - or are you and were you being moulded and designed - so will you now stand for and as you and direct you and mould you as 'who you are' in self honesty = is the question

21/05/2008 12:03:01 ‹M. Teresa› David - we experience what is here - at the moment, pain suffering and turmoil - though within self honest self expression - joy is not determined by an event/experience or even particular definition - it is self - so, the experience of you is not defined or determined - you are who you are in every moment

21/05/2008 12:05:41 ‹M. Teresa› actually no - it is - I am - nothing more, nothing less - not 'profound' - not 'great' = simplicity of self as the simplicity of breath here

19/05/2008 20:07:57 ‹Bernard› embrace the mind as the teacher--and see --it is the reflection of self --thus self is here already--lol 19/05/2008 20:08:22 ‹Bernard› or how else could self be a reflection?
19/05/2008 20:08:48 ‹Bernard› all is common sense here
19/05/2008 20:08:56 ‹Bernard› simplicity direct
19/05/2008 20:09:09 ‹Bernard› mind is complexity--the creator of complexes
19/05/2008 20:10:12 ‹Bernard› complexity requires relationship--that is why relationships exist--to show the complexity of compromised self reflection


19/05/2008 20:10:33 ‹Bernard› Understand you are here because you are here
19/05/2008 20:11:04 ‹Bernard› thus to realize this is to start --to see--to bee--to stop what is not here as self as all as one as equals

19/05/2008 20:12:17 ‹Bernard› forgive all as self--and realize all must walk the same path--their is no short cut--then support all as self as self walked already the path
19/05/2008 20:13:09 ‹Bernard› thus--the rapist and the theRAPIST are the same--me and you--the WE/ME as all as one--and stand--stop--be the force that is self in all ways--enforce self in all ways


17/05/2008 19:30:02 ‹Lilly› though, I am able to 'make an assessment', taking probabilities into consideration - manifest a 'concept' - then place the concept into practical living application - directive movement here, the being as me - though not to 'depend on the concept', but trust ME
17/05/2008 19:30:56 ‹Lilly› the 'concept' then becomes a 'foundation' from which to work from - preparing the way before self 17/05/2008 19:33:08 ‹Leila› trusting a concept never worked out for me lol

17/05/2008 19:48:56 ‹Lilly› Jesper - when you do communicate - be directive within and as you - speak with him what you observe within the conversation - he will either hear or not, speak with him as you'd speak with you

19:59:53 ‹Lilly› see - the 'more clean / crystal clean' you 'want to make something' - to the point of too clean - as in hospitals for instance - the more 'space is made' for bacteria to manifest = polartiy resistance


11/05/2008 18:47:01 ‹Alice B.› Alex - I am making a statement to understand not to 'categorize' yourself within anything - as this would be separation - but to be you, self here in self honesty - you're here because of you, you've realised points within you and your world and from here you are assisting and supporting you within your process, and Desteni is here as a support as you: One and Equal

11/05/2008 19:09:09 ‹Alice B.› yes, identifying the origin within and as you - how and why did you create this experience within you and your world and you will identify the causes and origins through writing you

11/05/2008 19:47:16 ‹Bernard› perceoved interpreted pressure is grinding teeth
11/05/2008 19:47:38 ‹Bernard› You must stand in and as self in certainty as life

11/05/2008 19:57:03 ‹Bernard› and no one noticed the forest grow 11/05/2008 19:57:53 ‹Bernard› yes--grow as breath
11/05/2008 19:58:15 ‹Bernard› gibran says it is the breath that build the body--but who notice it


28/02/2009 19:49:26 ‹Bernard› let the breath flow--do not force--I used the counting as an initial structure and then only to walk through the times that was tough

19:53:49 ‹Bernard› aldin--direct the anger as you as definitive expression that stands equal--without using the anger on something or some one
28/02/2009 19:54:39 ‹Bernard› thus--in common language--use it to develop common sense structured sentences and statements of self as standing here

25/01/2009 18:51:00 ‹Jack› lol Carolina - no, suicide is self-interest - deliberately giving up, and then you'll have to come back immediately into this world and experience the exact same point that caused to make such a 'decision' - only much more difficult and intense until you stand up and not give up/give in

25/01/2009 18:56:07 ‹Jack› So - from the perspective of you 'making a decision' to deliberately remove yourself from this world through the mind = is self-interest and has extensive consequence, because you regard you as 'more than life' - acting acc. to what you experience in self-interest, instead of considering all equal and one as you

25/01/2009 19:01:15 ‹Jack› katie - read the document by consciousness itself - the point of 'losing that which you love the most' is explained within it, if I'm not mistaken

25/01/2009 19:02:41 ‹Jack› But it doesn't have to Katie - you can let go that which you fear losing within yourself - and stand in absolute certain trust that you have let it go - if you hold onto it, that which you fear losing must be lost - for you to stop limiting you to the experience of only 'fear of loss'

23/01/2009 18:45:15 ‹Jack› It's not about 'believing' - we're here in and as the physical - you walk your process equal and one as we walk our process equal and one - each one alone - simply because you cannot 'see us' doesn't mean we're not here - the Mind would want to make sense of it with regards to 'proof', because the mind's existence is based on 'belief through proof'

23/01/2009 18:47:54 ‹carolina› hey Jack, when the portal was closed, did you feel like trapped in the dimensions because you couldn't communicate?
23/01/2009 18:49:15 ‹Jack› C - no - that would mean that I am defined by 'where I am' according to environment - and I'm not = so no, we continued with our processes

23/01/2009 18:55:38 ‹Jack› Ryan - you'll experience in your life currently, what you've already created in the past - that which is already done, manifest which you have to walk through and face with which self forgiveness, corrective action and breathing will asssist: For you to face you in self honesty and stop you to not create/manifest such separation/experience again which harm/compromise you and others as you and also 23/01/2009 18:55:42 ‹Jack› influence this world as you

23/01/2009 19:00:07 ‹Jack› Yes Ryan - simply 'work with' what is HERE in every moment - stick with this, walk step by step, moment by moment - not projecting fears/mountains into the future - walk here, face you here in every moment

28/02/2009 19:41:10 ‹Bernard› some will be like systems--a god conscious unconscious mind manifestation that takes over the being
28/02/2009 19:41:30 ‹Bernard› they will be quite clever and test the insight of each one
28/02/2009 19:42:12 ‹Bernard› thus--take a breath and watch carefully as these systems willtry to set a trap to cause you to doubt yourself
28/02/2009 19:42:17 ‹Bernard› remain as breath
28/02/2009 19:42:47 ‹Bernard› use this to become specific in every way--
19:43:06 ‹Bernard› do not judge the system --just common sense
28/02/2009 19:43:28 ‹Bernard› the systems are us--that will amalgamate --which in a way ends their existence

28/02/2009 19:55:33 ‹Bernard› always do well what you already do well equally--then the next open effectively

10/02/2009 18:42:53 ‹Bernard› deedra--forgiveness without actual corrective action and then the walk as the correction--is useless

10/02/2009 18:48:45 ‹Bernard› Ryan--the only wayto prove to you that you are able to handle consciousness is to live in it in every breath
10/02/2009 18:48:51 ‹Bernard› or it will destroy you
10/02/2009 18:49:12 ‹Bernard› in that you will be forced to walk in it
10/02/2009 18:49:27 ‹Bernard› i have already tried that way
10/02/2009 18:49:32 ‹Bernard› it does not work
10/02/2009 18:50:03 ‹Bernard› stand in this world and taking it on with common sense as life while participating cam
10/02/2009 18:50:28 ‹Bernard› that is to be equal as consciosuness --because it is you as who you projected yourself to be
10/02/2009 18:51:17 ‹Bernard› it is like bringing yourself as all back to you through the experience of understanding how you allowed it in the first place

10/02/2009 18:58:14 ‹Bernard› cam -- life was fuicked with through polarity--will explain in interviews as we continue 10/02/2009 19:07:39 ‹Bernard› deedra--tha actuality of you as life must be realized in fact in all ways and lived as such proven to all life
Sunette: Okay - 'caught up' - lol, Deedra, self-trust - 'becoming it' as you is done in every moment - walking here in self correction/change as you see you while/when you participate - and in walking so, self-trust become you = thus, walking/living the self forgiveness applied. I'd suggest watching the video of Osho done wherein he gives perspective of self-trust - that it exist only here in the moment every moment and is not 'transferrable' to the next, meaning that you cannot 'base/define' self trust on the past/past experience, only here in the moment every moment.

‹Bernard› fred--all is reflecting all--every being here represent one of your future or past lives
‹Bernard› we are all still in a cyclic design--consciousness that refelects its parts back to itself
‹Bernard› practically that means that you are looking at yourself in another life
‹Bernard› you are all individuals and the oneness of me and you is that we are in lives that we will live as each other eventually ‹Bernard› unless we stop this

‹Bernard› past and future exist together as each other fred--we really fuicked ourselves
‹Bernard› so katie--unconditional forgiveness--sometimes we have to do what we do not want to to get to where we know we must be
‹Bernard› all things are specific within discipline--where ther is a will there is a way --lol

‹Bernard› robert -- we all are always refelcting what we are experiencing --and when we place it out to see == we see where we are effective and where we are able to focus more effectively

Fred Cheung› Bernard - what is this Fear of losing myself/my individuality, myself perceived as == none Existing anymore?
‹Bernard› it is the mind fred--as you as reall will exist - unless you insist on remaining a mind only

‹Bernard› robert--equal and one as life--say what is best--do what is best for all and live it direct
‹Bernard› when all has all hbere--it includes yourself.

‹Sunette› Fred - what he's stating is that thoughts have no 'impact' on reality, as what is here in and as that which you do/live in the Physical = it's only Illusion and separate you from Here as the Physical as Reality as what is here in accepting and allowing self to participate in thoughts
.

‹Sunette› Fred - there shouldn't be - whether writing/speaking/translating - it is to be here constant = always, this is how to stand - equal and one here - no matter what you do/participate-in
‹Sunette› Actually - I'd suggest simply walking here in every moment, work-with what is here as the tools you have - that's it, always keep it simple

‹Sunette› Most have Deedra - all fear self-exposure due to the known dishonesties and deceptions of secrets that exist that all attempt/try to hide = but will always reveal as the truth of self is 'exposed' into and as full-revelation to be faced

17/06/2009 21:32:46 ‹carolina› dimensions seem to be always annoyed
17/06/2009 21:34:35 ‹Sunette› lol Carolina - nope, realise though that whenever the word 'seem' is used to/towards someone - they reflect you
7/06/2009 21:38:46 ‹Sunette› so - whenever 'seem' come-up, realise its 'interpretation' = interpreting self through another

17/06/2009 21:41:27 ‹Sunette› Fred - what exist, as it exist - we've created, manifested, formed, developed, designed as ourselves = thus, it is us - though realise, in this process = self first, focus on self-directing you, standing equal and one here - then you 'expand' you to others and your environment and then to the rest of the world/existence

17/06/2009 21:45:21 ‹Sunette› Understand - no-one and nothing will 'change' unless you do, because you are that 'someone/something' - self is source/origin - that must be the directive-principle of/as change so to speak

*Change Self: Reference Angela's structure resonance interview.

17/06/2009 21:52:54 ‹Sunette› lol Adele - why not take responsibility immediately, as self - always in every moment = otherwise, you're manifesting a time-loop process for yourself to 'understand/realise' you as self-responsibility simply lived in every moment

17/06/2009 21:55:10 ‹Sunette› Deedra - I make a 'sound' - when the yawn wants to come I loudly speak: Uh-Uh - which is the sound for No-No - lol, I find that yawning comes often when I'm not actually here in the physical with me, and the mind kinda takes the opportunity to 'lock-in' - which 'shut you down' through yawning - so I 'sound myself' so to speak - to stand here

17/06/2009 22:00:29 ‹Sunette› Carolina - Tree of Life interviews not required at this stage as each one, equally has all practical tools and application for self-investigation/discovery within self-honesty = which is equal and one for all, because more and more beings will be coming, and doing interviews for all will take some-time, so thus - each one walk in/as self-responsibility and we focus the interviews in assistance and support for/as all equal and one that all can walk/live/apply

15/06/2009 20:01:22 ‹Bernard› yes-- robert--all know what is best--but do not stop
15/06/2009 20:09:28 ‹Bernard› unconditional forgiveness confirmed through real actual permanent change is the key

‹Osho› when will we Stop, when will it Stop? Is it that, in even asking the question 'when will it Stop', we're implying that we won't Stop - because if/when one Stop = you Actually STOP - that's it. Thus - as long as the question: 'when will we stop or will we stop' exist = know, that we haven't stop, and won't = until we actually DO - in-Action, in-Actuality

‹Osho› Yeah - they will Ann - they're on 'Automatic-Mode', as it's been 'Automated' by self, because there's been no-Self at 'home' so to speak, as the Directive-Will that Live = thus, we became 'possessed' by 'Automated self-created systems' such as thought, generating 'living' or a 'form of life' for us
‹Osho› knock, knock, knock... - lol
‹Osho› Remember to Actually Stop, Ann - not just 'say/speak' 'Stop' = otherwise, it just become a 'voice in the head' - must actually stop in the moment, not follow the thought

‹Osho› Yip - Self-Discovery - with support and assistance as you walk, but in essence = each walk Alone
‹Osho› Or - whether there's support or not - it doesn't 'change who you are and what you stand-as and for'

Bernard: Recognising Deception and Dishonesty
forgiveness is ONLY VALID if you actually WILL YOURSELF breath by breath to CHANGE according to what is BEST FOR ALL no matter what
after all-- see the common sense-- this is the ONLY WAY ALL CAN BE TESTED EQUALLY
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Re: Desteni 2008 - 2009年(大部份是 Bernard的)金句集

帖子Fred cheung » 周二 1月 30, 2018 5:40 pm

翻譯 - 2018年 1月 29日
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Bernard's "salvia is extremely dangerous" reply:
Obviously this video is an opinion we shared

not what we say it is

all is always based on a starting point

if energy is the starting point of any experience--the user is fucked by it--as energy is the grand deception in our attempt to feel alive--in this energy--we seek our salvation--whether through drugs or love or sex or religion--it is the result of polarity as energy only moves in polarity and is the outflow of separation

drugs can be supportive--we will expound on this in time to come

Bernard 對 "Salvia(迷幻藥的一種)是極度危險"的回應:

顯然的, 這個視頻是我們分享的其中一種看法, 重點並非在我們說的話, 所有一切永遠都基於/取決於您的起始點

不管是什麼体驗, 如果你的起始點是能量 -- 那麼這個用者就注定被它砸了 -- 因為能量是我們嘗試感受到活着(体驗)的終極騙術 -- 在/透過這些能量裏 -- 我們不斷尋找我們的救贖 -- 不管是透過藥品/毒品, 或愛, 或性愛, 或宗教 -- 都是由兩極化産生的結果, 因為能量只能夠透過兩極化, 即是由分離洐生出來的産物, 才能夠移動

藥品/毒品可以是具備支援潛質的(*需要在安全, 嚴格, 極度清晰並非因為上了癮而使用的起始點下) -- 我們在將來會更深入剖釋這個題目.


<Adele Desteni quotes - 136>
Therefore – it’s to release the past within you entirely – through writing and self forgiveness, because for the past to exist a future must exist, and in letting go of the past, you let go of the future and you LIVE HERE AS SELF in and as BREATH unconditionally – no more conditioned by the past or the future creating the now/present which enslaves you to the unified consciousness field of mind.

<Adele Desteni 金句 - 136>

因此 - 重點是完全釋放過在你裏面, 自己的(所有)過去 – 透過寫作和自我寬恕, 因為有過去, 就必需有未來, 而當你放開過去時, 你(也)放開了未來, 然後你無條件地在和成為 "呼吸", 和活 "在這裏忠於自己"(LIVE HERE AS SELF) – 不再受制於過去, 或未來(的束縛), 製造出現在/現今(Now/Present), 它們把你困在心智的統一意識場(Unified Consciousness Field of Mind)裏面, 成為它的奴隸.


<Desteni quotes - 144, Bruce L.>
striving = starving
The more there is striving - even within an individual 'personal' desire - towards something somewhere - the more starving exists - because for those who wants and gets (strives) - there are those from which it taken (starves).

<Desteni 金句 - 144, 李小龍>

奮鬥/鬥爭(Striving) = 饑餓(Starving)

越多奮鬥/鬥爭 - 即使在個人 '私人' - 對不管是什麼地方/東西 - 的欲望 - 就會出現更多的饑餓 - 因為為了(滿足)那些夢想, 和渴望得到的人的欲望(奮鬥/鬥爭, Strives) - 就必需從其他人身上奪取(饑餓, Starves)


<Desteni quotes: 161>
Be the equilibrium - be HERE.

Therefore, I’d suggest to ‘release the past within you’ completely/entirely – realise that the ‘experience’ of ‘you as who you really are’ – is not some ‘profound ‘out there’ experience’ at all – so whenever you experience something ‘seemingly profound’ within you such as you did in the past = it’s the mind.

You are simplicity – you are here: I am here – that’s it.

<Desteni 金句: 161>

活在/成為平衡 - 活在/成為 "這裏"(HERE)

因此, 我會建議你 '完全/徹底釋放在你裏面的過去' – 並且察覺 "這個真面目的你" (過往)的 "体驗" – 完全不是什麼 "棒極(Profound)" (自己)以外/出面/尋覓的体驗(Out there Expreience), 完全不是那麼一回事 – 所以每當你在裏面, 体驗到一些看似是 '棒極'的体驗, 就像你過往所做過的一切時 = 這些都是心智(的体驗).

你是簡單/樸實(Simplicity) - 你在這裏(Here): 我在這裏 - 就是這麼簡單/就已經足夠了


<Desteni quotes 175 - Bernard>
all pain is the wrapping paper of the gift of self
Unwrap and embrace--thus --see what it is that one learn from experience and pain to stand for all life as one and equal

<Desteni 金句 175 - Bernard>

所有痛楚都是(一層層)包裹着自己(Self)的禮物包裝紙

拆開和擁抱/接受(Embrace)它 -- 因此 -- 看一看自己從經歷/体驗, 和痛楚中, 在成為擁護/支援所有生命都是一体和平等(的進程中), 你學到了些什麼?


<Desteni quotes: 193>
As long as pre-programmed responses, fears, likenesses, preferences, ideas exist as the directive personality superseding self, self-honesty is not Here as self.

<Desteni 金句: 193>
只要預編程反應, 害怕/恐懼, 相似頃向(Likenesses), 念頭/概念, 即是性格主導, 繼續主宰/凌駕在自己(Self)之上, 在這裏(Here)的自己, 就不會有自我-誠實.


<Desteni quotes: 194>
Justification is the ACCEPTANCE of less than self in all forms and ways and being OK with such acceptance and then comes deliberate dishonest justifications--that is to make the justification Sound right with REASONS

<Desteni quotes: 194>
辯護就是當你全方位地, "接受"各種任何形式, 萎縮的自己(Less than Self), 而且視這種接受, 為 OK的行為, 然後再進一步是蓄意不誠實的辯護 -- 利用 "各種道理/理由", 令辯護聽起來很合理/正當


<Desteni quotes: 196>

A few points to chew

self honesty is to realize the consequence for ALL in the partake of the participant -- thus--for a positive experience to one participant--another participant--mostly unknown to the positive seeker--must balance the equation for reality to seemingly remain stable--must carry the negative-

<Desteni 金句: 196>

有幾點給您們細心想一想的

自我誠實的意思, 是當您吃/喝(奪取/侵取)參與者/對方的時候, 您察覺到對 "所有一切"會造成的後果 -- 因此 -- 為了讓一個參與者得到一趟正面的体驗 -- 另一個參與者--大部份時間, 正面体驗的追夢者完全不知情下的(受害者)-- 必需負起平衡現實等式中的角色, 以維持表面看似是, 穏定的狀態--他/她必需承受負面/痛楚-
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Re: Desteni 2008 - 2009年(大部份是 Bernard的)金句集

帖子Fred cheung » 周三 1月 31, 2018 1:29 am

翻譯 - 2018年 1月 30日 - (1)
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<Desteni quotes: 198>

Thus--self honesty for ALL as ONE as equals--to stop this see--saw BS called existence just because sometimes you may hit the jackpot and have a great life--and the call it a success by the law of attraction--is UNBECOMING of a creator--and such creators--HAVE no POWER--as the laws they buy into as consciousness--controls them and they are ONLY a spinning casino game of thoughts feelings and emotions at the BEHEST of keeping the balance

<Desteni 金句: 198>

因此 -- 自我誠實代表 "所有一切/全体"都是一体, 都是平等的 -- 為了制止這個, 我們稱為存在, 的蹺蹺板(See-Saw, 看到-曾經看過)的荒謬狗屎世界(Bull Shit), 純綷因為你偶爾或許中了頭奬, 所以你就得到一次豪華/精彩的人生 -- 並且宣稱自己証明了, 透過吸引力法則成功了 -- 此舉令你變成一個 "不稱職(UNBECOMING)"的創造者 -- 而這樣的創造者 -- "得"不到任何 "力量/權力"的 -- 因為他們被自己深信的法則, 即是意識 -- 控制了他們, 而且他們 "純綷只是"在充滿念頭, 感受, 和情緒的賭場輪盤遊戲中, 忠心遵從維持平衡這條命令下的一名賭徒.


<Desteni quotes, Bernard points to consider>
* Oneness and equality cannot be forced--you are it or you are not-- you cannot deny it -- or hide from it-- you will either make it or you will not

* Expression through--is subject to a system

life is expression as--self is expression as
If self is not authentic and original -- self is just a mime--a reflection of a system and thus less than a system

* Thus--all that self have not DIRECTLY placed in your life in all ways--from conception to expression to result--is of the mind and thus preprogrammed and came into your life as a program

this is why ALL relationships are SELF DECEPTION and addiction to fear of loss and fear related to survival--not many will make this--and many will argue and fight for the survival of the relationship system--I suggest not--the consequences of sparking the relationship to save another or make sure self survive--is eating from knowledge--eating from fear--because all knowledge is fear--and those that eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge will certainly die and not make this birthing of SELF--and remember--you can ONLY birth yourself--and not another


* Many patterns, patterns are the design construct of knowledge that form the holographic illustration of self that is lived --this is NOT life

* Access to self cannot be gained--access is granted and given for self by self

you will be denied access to you as long as you deny access to you

* If the answer is given it is not for given and self realization is for saken

the focal point of the vocalization


* See the snake and its secret

it is the biter and the bitten

a polarity that play out for eternity--equal and one--the biter becomes the bitten and the bitten becomes the biter and in this all gets BITTER

now--the thing that makes the mind zing

if you are neither the biter or the bitten this life--by virtue of allowing such cycle to exist--you are locked into the eternal cycle of life--to become equal and one both the biter and the bitten because you allowed it in another --who is really allowing it to exist in you

this is what must be stopped--because this is how our bitterness became demons as ourselves and how we manifested a mind to manage and forget--because we were trapped in this cycle--unable to give up the good times when it arrives and unwilling to see how we participate and create both the biter and the bitten--this is why self forgiveness in all ways is necessary--to have one point where we are all equal and one in understanding and self honesty to make sure we do not deceive ourselves through pretense == because no matter who we deceive--see--it is ALWAYS ONLY OURSELVES


<Desteni 金句, Bernard 給大家細想一下的點>

* 我們是不可能強迫任何人成為一体平等 -- 你只有是, 或者你不是(一体平等)兩種結局 -- 你沒有任何辦法可以否定它 -- 或躲避/逃避它 -- 你只有成功(成為平等生命的一份子), 或者你接受失敗的後果

* 要透過某種東西, 才能夠表現 -- (表示你)受制於一個系統

生命是一種(你)成為/變成它(As)的表現 -- 自己(Self)是一種成為/變成的表現
如果自己並非真正的自己和原創的話 -- 自己就只不過是一齣啞劇(Mime) -- 一個系統反射出來的映像而已 -- 因此比一個系統更萎縮


* 因此 -- 所有那些不是自己 "直接"放進你的生命中, 的任何東西 -- 從構思, 到表現, 到結果/後果 -- 都是心智的産物, 亦即是被預編程, 和以編程的形式殖入你的生命

這就是為什麼 "所有"的關係, 都是在 "自我欺騙自己", 和對害怕失去, 和跟競爭求存有關的恐懼(的表現) -- 沒有多少人能夠走過這關 -- 而且很多人會為關係系統的生死存亡, 而爭辯和戰鬥到底 -- 我建議不要 -- 為了想拯救一個人, 或確保自己能夠繼續生存下去, 而(與他/她)燃點一段關係的後果/結局 -- 就等同吃了智慧/智識(Knowledge)之果實 -- 等同吃了害怕/恐懼之果實 -- 因為所有智慧/智識就是害怕/恐懼 -- 而那些吃了智慧/智識之樹的果實的人, 他們肯定會死, 並且不會成功, 完成這趟誕出 "自己(SELF)"的旅程 -- 請記住 -- 你 "只有能力"誕出你自己 -- 你沒有能力為其他人誕出他/她們.


* 有很多模式(Pattern), 模式是智識的(預)設定結構体(Design Construct), 構成了自己過往曾經活過些什麼, 的全息演示(Holographic Illustration) -- 這樣 "並不是"生命

* 接通(Access)自己不是靠贏回來的 -- 能夠接通與否, 是由(你)自己決定, (你)會否為自己, 准許自己和給予自己接通
只要你一天還是否定/拒絶接通你自己, 你終身也不能夠接通你自己


* 如果(我)直接給你答案, 答案的目的, 並非為了直接給你, 是為了逹到自我察覺的目的 - 這是押韻的焦點

* 看一看蛇與牠的秘密

就在咬人者和被咬者裏面

一種永遠不停上演的兩極化(循環) -- (兩者)都是平等一体的 -- 咬人者淪為被咬者, 而被咬者卻變成了咬人者, 在這一切當中, 所有人都受到傷害/得到的就只有憎恨(BITTER)

現在 -- 讓我令(你的)心智精神為之一振(Zing)

如果你在這次人生中, 不是咬人者, 也不是被咬者 -- 由於你允許此等循環繼續存在 -- 你將會被鎖在無止境的生命循環/輪迴(Cycle of Life) -- 同時平等一体地, 你成為咬人者, 也成為被咬者, 因為是你允許/袖手旁觀其他人這樣做 -- (意思是)你實際上允許它/這種行為, 在你裏面(繼續)存在.

我們必需制止這種狀況繼續下去 -- 因為這就是我們的憎恨, 怎麼會把我們變成了一頭惡魔? 和我們怎麼會實現了一個心智, 用來管理和忘記(一切), 的答案 -- 因為我們一直困在這個循環裏面 -- 當美麗的時光來臨時, 我們不能夠(自律地)放棄它, 並且不願意看清楚/瞭解, 我們究竟是怎樣製造了咬人者及被咬者, 和同時參與在兩種角色當中 -- 這就是為什麼我們的自我寬恕, 必需是全面的自我寬恕 -- 為了我們所有人, 都平等和一体地明白到這一點, 並且自我誠實地, 確保我們不會利用假裝/籍口來欺騙自己 == 因為不管我們欺騙誰 -- 看一看 -- "永遠所有的一切, 都只是我們自己而已"


15/06/2008 10:52:05 ‹Bernard› what is HERE is all points of polarities in relation to an attempt to ballance the equation--see the matrix movie for this
15/06/2008 10:52:05 ‹Bernard› 什麼是這裏(HERE)? 這裏是一個所有的兩極化點, 它們在裏面不停嘗試平衡(所有)等式的一個地方 -- 參考電影 "黑客帝國", 它的內容就是這個意思


15/06/2008 18:34:07 ‹Lloyd› ahhh....the throwing away of the "old Lloyd" to become the new improved Lloyd...hahahaha
15/06/2008 18:34:44 ‹Bernard› no lloyd--to never be lloyd again--lloyd cannot be fixed--lloyd is an idea programmed for the matrix

15/06/2008 18:34:07 ‹Lloyd› 啊!!!!....我要把擺脫這個 "舊 Lloyd", 然後變成一個全新改良了的 Lloyd...哈哈哈哈
15/06/2008 18:34:44 ‹Bernard› 不 Lloyd -- 目標是永遠也不要再變成 Lloyd了 -- Lloyd 沒救了, 沒有任何機會可以修理好的 -- Lloyd 是一個被預編程了, (用來服務)意識社會系統(Matrix)的一個概念


15/06/2008 18:35:33 ‹Bernard› life is equal in all--nameless--boundless--if all else is gone--remains here is life
15/06/2008 18:44:16 ‹Bernard› I am interdimensional--thus everywhere as here

15/06/2008 18:35:33 ‹Bernard› 生命是全面平等的 -- 沒有名字 -- 完全無限 -- 如果其他所有一切都消失了以後 -- 在這裏剩下的, 就是生命
15/06/2008 18:44:16 ‹Bernard› 我是跨維度性的 -- 因此(我)是 -- 無處不在, 即是這裏
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Re: Desteni 2008 - 2009年(大部份是 Bernard的)金句集

帖子Fred cheung » 周三 1月 31, 2018 5:33 pm

翻譯 - 2018年 1月 31日 - (1)
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11/01/2009 19:24:24 ‹Kieran› Yip - it's to be the same whether alone or when with people 'watching you' - quite a point to observe within self this
11/01/2009 19:24:24 ‹Kieran› Yip - 不管你是獨自一個人在家, 或與其他人一起 '他們看着你', 你都必需維持不變 - 是你在自己裏面, 必需要觀察到, 這頗重要的一點


11/01/2009 19:30:57 ‹Kieran› Yes - 'friends' have become 'distractions' to support each other to distract ourselves from ourselves with 'entertainment' - it's all become about entertaining self with pre-occupation instead of recognizing self here and living

11/01/2009 19:30:57 ‹Kieran› 對 - '朋友' 現在變成了一種 '分散你的注意力', 我們互相支援分散對方, 用 '娛樂'來分散我們放在自己身上的注意力的東西 - 現在目的完全變成了, 用迷戀(預先設計-佔據你, Pre-Occupation)的東西來娛樂自己, 取代/變成不再察覺自己現在在這裏(Here), 並且去活自己


11/01/2009 19:40:52 ‹Kieran› If you live self honesty as you - then you're living self honesty - then your self-honest expression stand - being self-honest as you - is being self honest with others as you = you're the starting point = you're still relating yourself to/towards others

11/01/2009 19:40:52 ‹Kieran› 如果你把自己活出/成為自我誠實 - 那麼你就是活在自我誠實當中 - 那麼你的自我誠實表現, 是經得起考驗的 - 對自己誠實 - (只)是你對其他人, 也像對你怎樣對自己誠實, 一樣地對他們誠實 = 你的起始點仍然是為自己 = 你仍然在根據與其他人/為其他人的關係, 來改變自己迎合他們.


11/01/2009 19:41:51 ‹Kieran› Honesty - is when you change yourself to suit you with others
11/01/2009 19:41:51 ‹Kieran› 誠實 - 是當你為了迎合其他人而改變(你)自己


11/01/2009 19:42:34 ‹Kieran› Self Honesty is you being self directive with regards to what you will accept/allow and what not within the starting point of equal and one
11/01/2009 19:42:34 ‹Kieran› 自我誠實是當你的起始點是平等一体的前題下, 你接受/允許些什麼? 和拒絶/不接受些什麼? 接受/允許它們在自己裏面存在, 在這方面自我主導自己.


11/01/2009 19:45:15 ‹Kieran› Carolina - it's not about being honest with others - if your starting point is being honest with others - a door opens of justification - I'd suggest simply first focus on self honesty - being self honest with you here in the moment - live an example of self-honesty

11/01/2009 19:45:15 ‹Kieran› Carolina - 這跟對其他人誠實與否是沒有關係的 - 如果你的起始點, 是為了對其他人誠實 - 你就有機會用它來為自己辯護/做籍口 - 我會建議你直接先集中在自我誠實身上 - 在每刻裏在這裏都使自己處於自我誠實 - 活出一個自我-誠實的榜樣


11/01/2009 20:00:44 ‹Kieran› many traditions,religions, paths and ways have aspects Jesper = the point always missed: Self honesty and equality and oneness
11/01/2009 20:00:44 ‹Kieran› 很多傳統, 宗教, 路徑, 和手段/方法都具有影響力(Aspects)的 Jesper = (但是)他們永遠都忽略了一點: 自我誠實, 平等和一体


11/01/2009 20:02:57 ‹Ryan› Kieran, dimensions is like nothing on earth?
11/01/2009 20:03:51 ‹Kieran› Ryan - it's exactly as earth times 1000000000000000000000000000 the intenseness of self-experience as you walk through your process

11/01/2009 20:02:57 ‹Ryan› Kieran, 維度(空間)與地球, 完全是天差地別的另一個世界嗎?

11/01/2009 20:03:51 ‹Kieran› Ryan - 我可以完全準確地說, 當你在那邊走進程的時候, 跟你(現時)在地球時感受到的自我-体驗(Self-Experience)相比, 增加了 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000(1 Octillion = 1萬億! 乘 1萬億! 再乘 1千!)倍的強度


29/06/2008 15:07:14 ‹Bernard› the principle is what is best for all is best for self--then we are getting to it
29/06/2008 15:15:50 ‹Bernard› See--my permanent state is the same as on drugs--thus--I am high all the time--lol
29/06/2008 15:16:43 ‹Bernard› the drug like extasy for instance remove the mind/emotional state for a moment
29/06/2008 15:17:18 ‹Bernard› weed bring out the suppressions and will go to the opposite afterwards
29/06/2008 15:17:37 ‹Bernard› coke is plain ego bullshit and enhance the ego to be more effective
29/06/2008 15:51:03 ‹Bernard› yes--why hang on to anything when you have everything a all?
29/06/2008 16:21:25 ‹Bernard› Anu used logic covered as common sense--using 95% "truth" with the core false--and thus all fell forit

29/06/2008 15:07:14 ‹Bernard› 遵守: 對全体所有人最好/最大得益的, 就是對自己最好/最大得益的 -- 做到這點以後, 我們就走對了方向, 逐漸開始(學)懂了

29/06/2008 15:15:50 ‹Bernard› 看一看 -- 我長久以來一直的狀態, 都像吃了藥物/毒品(Drugs)一樣 -- 因此 -- 我永遠都處於 High的狀態 -- lol

29/06/2008 15:16:43 ‹Bernard› 例如像狂喜(Extasy)之類的毒品, 它短暫地删除(你的)心智/情緒狀態

29/06/2008 15:17:18 ‹Bernard› 大麻把(你的)壓抑帶出表面, 跟着你會出現/處於相反/兩極的狀態/体驗

29/06/2008 15:17:37 ‹Bernard› 可卡因(Coke)完全純綷是自我(Ego)在放屁(Bullshit), 並且增強自我, 令它變得更強悍

29/06/2008 15:51:03 ‹Bernard› 對 -- 為什麼只堅持鍾情任何一樣東西, 當你事實上已經擁有/是一個完整的所有一切了(A All)?

29/06/2008 16:21:25 ‹Bernard› Anu 利用把邏輯(Logic), 掩飾成常識(Common Sense)的樣子 -- 用了 95%的 "真相" 但是核心卻是冒充/假的 -- 因此所有人仕都上了他的當


08/11/2008 20:41:04 ‹Bernard› here is always here--we created here in our image--now to stop and recreate it
08/11/2008 20:52:44 ‹Bernard› all u study is in books--like all knowledge come from books--and never made any difference to the real problems on earth
08/11/2008 21:06:16 ‹Bernard› the only point that is real equal and one for all is the physical breath
08/11/2008 21:06:47 ‹Bernard› there is infinite time solmaz--because u can only do what u can in breath and that is sufficient
08/11/2008 21:08:39 ‹Bernard› the mind represents desires and hopes and competition and achievement and better

08/11/2008 20:41:04 ‹Bernard› 這裏(Here), 永遠都在這裏 -- 我們跟據自己的形像(Image), 創造了這裏(Here) -- 現在需要做的, 就是先制止它, 然後重新創造它

08/11/2008 20:52:44 ‹Bernard› 你過往所學/讀的一切, 都只是從書本上學習 -- 就像所有的智識都來自書本 -- 但是對在地球上(一直存在)的真正問題, 卻從來都沒有帶出過任何轉變

08/11/2008 21:06:16 ‹Bernard› 在所有人裏面, 唯一真正平等和一体的, 就只有物質性呼吸(Physical Breath)而已
08/11/2008 21:06:47 ‹Bernard› 我們有無限的時間(Infinite Time) Solmaz -- 因為你只能夠透過呼吸, 盡力做好自己, 而做到這點就已經足夠了

08/11/2008 21:08:39 ‹Bernard› 心智代表欲望, 希望/盼望(Hopes), 競爭求存, 成就, 和比別人更優勝


28/08/2008 19:10:09 ‹Hansie› BECAUSE - the KEY is the PHYSICAL - this is where HERE is as i am HERE
28/08/2008 19:10:09 ‹Hansie› "因為" - "物質性(Physical)" 就是(一切的)關鍵" - "這裏(HERE)"就在物質性裏面, 就像我是這裏(I am HERE)一樣


<Bernard> Drop all of everything forever and HERE remains
<Bernard> 永遠拋開/放下所有一切以後, 就會只剩下 "這裏(HERE)"


18/06/2008 18:32:25 ‹Sarah› understand Terri, we're still in this existence, this unified field manifested as 'time' - though it is for self to not exist of time, to stop the existence of time as past present and future and so stop the continuation of the unified field -this done through living HERE as breath where all of self as self is HERE - here in and as breath where no time exist = timelessness

18/06/2008 18:32:25 ‹Sarah› Terri要明白, 我們現時仍然在這個存在, 這個顯現/稱為 "時間"的統一場/空間(Unified Field)裏面 - 不過我們的目的, 是為了使自己不再活在時間裏面, 制止時間, 即是過去, 現在, 和將來(Past Present Future)(繼續存在), 透過做到這點, 制止/打破統一場/空間的延續 - 此舉需要透過活在 這裏(HERE), 成為呼吸, 在(呼吸)裏面, 自己的所有部份, 都在這裏回歸/合一, 就像自己在/處於 "這裏(HERE)"一樣 - 在這裏(Here), 處於, 和成為呼吸後, 在裏面時間並不存在 = 永恒/不受時間影響(Timelessness)


<dimensions>

*The point must always be self - the point is self--because nothing else but self exist

*ForeSee, To ForeSee the Future is forsaking Self for the sake of the Mind

<所有次元人仕>

重點永遠都必需集中在自己(Self)身上 - 重點必需是自己--因為除了自己(在這裏)存在以外, (這裏)什麼也沒有

預見, 預測/預見將來意思是為了心智(的生存/利益), 而放棄自己


Meaning that if you are projecting yourself into the future - you are giving your power away to the mind to design your life for you

Intel --Intelligence--the cleverness designed construct in which you become a sly fox in the system cared for by the system and OF the system

Intelligence is useless --self as life is not defined by intelligence

意思是如果您把自己, 投映在未來裏 - 您即是把自己的力量/權力, 送給了心智, 為您設計自己的人生

智慧--是一種很聰明的設計結構体, 當中它把您變成, 在系統裏的一頭狡滑的狐狸, (只)關心系統, 受到系統的眷顧, 忠於並且屬於系統的一部份.

智慧是毫無價值的 --作為(平等)生命的自己(Self)是不受智慧所定義的


*Self AND NOT the System/Mind must be the DIRECTIVE CAUSE

必需要以自己(Self) "不要"以系統/心智成為 "您的指揮官",
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Re: Desteni 2008 - 2009年(大部份是 Bernard的)金句集

帖子Fred cheung » 周日 2月 04, 2018 5:25 pm

翻譯 - 2018年 2月 4日
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<Mother matrix>

*Do not define self by fuckups and failures
*Each is ALL knowing within themselves and Know all that happens in self as the attention in every moment--now only to be self honest in each moment--and the all knowing of self will change and know ALL

In the desire to possess is the lack
whether it be knowledge, insight, love, divinity, power, life
you are your own un-doing and un-being


*When we accept what is HERE as self in every breath--we will find self directiveness
when we wish for what is not HERE as the breath--we will seek for what is NOT HERE and be LOST
The key is HERE as SELF
when this is LIVING SELF
ALL ELSE WILL REVEAL


<意識社會系統之母(Mother Matrix)>

* 不要因為一敗塗地(Fuckups), 和失敗而用來定義自己

* 每個人在他們自己裏面, 都清楚自己在每刻都注要到, "是我最瞭解自己", 和我做過些什麼? 發生過什麼事? -- 現在(你)只需要每刻都保持自我誠實 -- 然後(好好把握), 是我最瞭解自己這點, 就會改變 "所有一切", 令你明白 "所有一切"

在(當你)渴望佔有時, (你)裏面就隠藏着缺少/不足(Lack)

不管它是智識, 洞察, 愛, 神聖(Divinity), 權力/力量(Power), 生命

是你自己, 一手毁滅自己, 和毁滅自己-的存在(Un-Being)

* 當我們在每口呼吸中, 接受/承認 "這裏(HERE)"出現的所有一切, 都是我自己時 -- 我們就會找到自我主導性(Self Directiveness)

當我們想要得到, (任何)不在/不屬於 "這裏(HERE)", 即是呼吸, (以外)的東西時 -- 我們就會追尋那些 "不在/不屬於這裏(HERE)"的東西, 並且從此就 "迷失了"

答案/關鍵是 "這裏(HERE)", 就是 "自己"

當你 "活出/活在"這點以後

"其餘所有一切(的答案), 都會展現在你面前"


07/10/2008 19:10:07 ‹AliceB.› David - the only reason why you wouldn't is because you fear it being done unto you - getting hurt through words is the construct of takign something personally - and when a being reacts to words, it simply indicate the words was exact

07/10/2008 19:10:07 ‹愛麗斯貝利› David - 你唯一不願意做的原因, 就是因為你害怕它對你帶來的後果/影響 - 當你感到因為(對方的)文字而受到攻擊, 這是一種覺得別人在針對你的結構体 - 而且當一個人仕, 對(對方的)文字産生反應時, 它純綷在顯示, 這些字(對你的敍述)完全正確


01/10/2008 17:56:29 ‹Hitler› Hereness not a feeling Ric - be cautious of not projecting you into the future by looking for an experience as feeling as here - here is here in and as breath
01/10/2008 17:56:29 ‹希特勒› 這裏性/處於這裏(Hereness)不是一種感覺 Ric - 小心不要因為(想)尋找在這裏(Here)的一種(怎樣的)感覺体驗, 而把自己投映在未來裏面 - 這裏在呼吸裏面, 這裏即是呼吸


01/10/2008 17:59:33 ‹Hitler› A process Aldin - where the word you write and the words you live/speak is one and equal here as you - writing is you establishing/forming the foundation of you to stand as - then the living/speaking emerge one and equal = this is what practical application assist with

01/10/2008 17:59:33 ‹希特勒› 這是一個進程 Aldin - 你寫出來的字, 和你活/說的字, 兩者都是一体平等, 它們變成(As)了你 - 寫作, 是你正在, 為自己要堅持變成(的目標), 所興建/形成的地基, 的一個進程 - 然後怎樣實際活它/說話就會隨後, 一体平等地顯現 = 這就是實際應用能夠帶給你的幫助


05/10/2008 18:37:13 ‹Jack› creating a relationship Joe - lol, well, if you push someone within a point, you must be willing to walk with them through it - take self responsibility - otherwise, if you don't - simply indicate you weren't self-honest in your starting point

05/10/2008 18:37:13 ‹Jack› 創造一段關係 Joe - lol, 其實, 當你推動/催逼(Push)某人, 活某一點的時候, 你首先必需願意承擔, 陪着他們一起走過這點 - 負起自我責任 - 否則, 如果你不願意的話 - 這純綷在顯示, 你推動他/她的起始點, 並非出於自我-誠實


05/10/2008 18:40:24 ‹Jack› Reginald - purpose has become the very nature of our existence manifested as the 'eternal search for ourselves'
05/10/2008 18:41:11 ‹Jack› instead of realising we're HERE, and that all and everything is one and equal here as ourselves here
05/10/2008 19:21:21 ‹Jack› With regards to the post on OF Reginald - realise your starting point is you, expressing you and your specificity in self expression assist and support you here = and not to 'want to do it to help others' = separation

05/10/2008 18:40:24 ‹Jack› Reginald - 目的(Purpose), 現在已經變成了我們存在的本質, 以 "在永遠搜尋自己"的形式顯現.
05/10/2008 18:41:11 ‹Jack› 反而沒有察覺到我們是 "這裏(HERE)", 和任何及所有一切, 即是在這裏裏面, 全部都是我們自己, 在這裏所有一切, 都是一体和平等的
05/10/2008 19:21:21 ‹Jack› 對於針對及 Reginald自己的貼文 - 要察覺你的起始點是你自己, 在你的自我表現中, (盡力)表現你, 和你在表現中的具体性(Specificity), 透過你的自我表現, 支援協助在這裏的你 = 並非 "為了協助其他人"而做, (否則) = 分離


27/09/2008 18:12:22 ‹Bernard› Aldin--through self acceptance as self honesty expressly lived in every breath
27/09/2008 18:13:14 ‹Bernard› Thus self trust as life evident as who you are here

27/09/2008 18:12:22 ‹Bernard› Aldin -- 透過接受自己, 即是在每口呼吸中, 都清楚地(Expressly)活出自我誠實
27/09/2008 18:13:14 ‹Bernard› 這樣的話, 你的自我信任(Self Trust), 作為你是生命(的一份子)的証明, 在這裏顯現我是一個, 自我信任自己/我証明了自己是生命(一份子)的人


6:38:04 ‹Osho› Self trust - taking in and standing as what is here in the moment - directing self in common sense self honesty - not based on what has been before - but what is here and only here in the moment

6:38:04 ‹奧修› 自我信任 - 接受和堅持, 這刻在這裏(Here)的所有一切都是你自己 - 運用自我誠實, 和常識來主導自己 - 不會基於過去的一切 - 而是在這裏(Here)的一切, 完全只衡量這刻在這裏的所有一切


28/09/2008 16:40:09 ‹Osho› Cool directive principle Leila - see - not so bad as what the mind makes it to be - the mind utilize fear through future projection to keep the being trapped in how the mind has been designed/set-up = for how can the mind or even you possibly interpret how a moment could play out? Therefore - you've shown yourself - fear is ridiculous with regards to future projections - trust you here and express

28/09/2008 16:40:09 ‹奧修› 很酷的主導原則(Directive Principle) Leila - 看一看 - (真實情況)並沒有像心智想像般那麼壞 - 心智利用害怕/恐懼, 透過把你投映在未來裏面, 以逹到繼續把人仕囚禁在, 心智一直以來沿用的設計/配罝裏面 = 因為心智, 甚至連你自己, 那裏有能力翻譯/解讀(Interpret)某一刻/瞬間以後, 它將來的發展會變成怎樣? = 因此 - 你証明了給自己看 - 害怕/恐懼對於預測未來方面, 是可笑/荒謬的(行為) - 信任在這裏的你, 並且(在這裏)表現自己


28/09/2008 17:26:19 ‹Osho› Aldin - this experience is you actually speaking the words in awareness/presence here - where you are self directive as the words - its no more just words spoken due to the habit of speaking - its self presence in words
28/09/2008 17:26:19 ‹奧修› Aldin - 你這種体驗, 實際上是因為當時, 你的察覺性真的處於/你真的在/呈現在(Awareness/Presence)這裏(Here)時說話的体驗 - 當中你自我主導自己成為你的字 - 它們不再純綷只是你, 由過往說話的習慣而說出口的字 - 是(你)在/呈現在(Presence)在字裏面(的表現)


28/09/2008 17:45:50 ‹Osho› let's not dwell on what has been - what is relevant is what is here and we're here - so let's work with what is here as here
28/09/2008 17:45:50 ‹奧修› 讓我們不要再細說(Dwell)過去一直怎樣怎樣 - 真正有意義的, 是這裏(Here)有些什麼? 和我們(活)在這裏 - 所以讓我們運用在這裏的一切, 處於/(活)在這裏, (並且解決我們的問題)
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29/09/2008 17:47:47 ‹Jack› What is it about confrontation that you fear/anger expressed towards you that you fear? I find it places one 'in the spot' when someone reacts, you cannot think about what to say - you must breathe and trust you in the moment and speak common sense - quite a challenge - but assists self immensely to see reactions and transcend them in the moment of experience and expre

29/09/2008 17:47:47 ‹Jack› 為什麼你害怕面對自己的恐懼/當別人對你産生憤怒表現時你害怕面對他們? 我發現當某人(對你)産生反應, 而你想不出應該說些什麼回應時, 這時候特別 "表露無遺" - 你必需呼吸, 和信任自己在那刻/瞬間, 說出你的常識(Common Sense) - 是頗具挑戰性的一件事 - 但是它能夠大大地協助你, 在你每刻的体驗和表現中, 觀察到自己的反應, 並且超越它們


28/08/2008 19:22:54 ‹Hansie› that losing control point - is the very addiction, is the adrenaline that so many seek/look for - not realising the actual manifested consequence it has in and as this world = that's disturbing
28/08/2008 19:22:54 ‹Hansie› 失控這點 - 是一種, 那麼多人在尋找/追求失控帶來的腎上腺素, 沈溺/上了癮 - 卻沒有察覺到它當中, 和在/對這個世界, 真正顯現/帶來/造成的後果 = 這是令人感到很不安的一件事


14/08/2008 19:02:55 ‹Hitler› Ruben, take into consideration to not only transfer knowledge and information - but express who you are as that which you'll be presenting and your experience of you within and as it
14/08/2008 19:02:55 ‹希特勒› Ruben, 考慮一下不要純綷只傳逹知識和訊息 - 相反, 當你活/應用過, 這些你準備給他們展現的材料後, 呈現(一個新的)自己, 和你現在的(新)体驗


31/07/2008 18:50:27 ‹Jack› The eternal search for love - which manifest the polarity of 'hate' as 'abuse' - because it's the statement you're making of yourself - I am 'unloved' - therefore I need love, which will actually manifest the experience of yourself as 'hate' and all that hate incorporates = abuse = ****ed up

31/07/2008 18:50:27 ‹Jack› 永遠在尋覓真愛 - 此舉顯現/造成兩極化/相對, 以 "虐待(Abuse)"形式出現的 "憎恨" - 因為它是你在表述, 我得不到任何人/沒有人 "愛我" - 因此我需要愛, 但是實際上在你裏面, 反而會顯現 "憎恨"的体驗, 而你把這所有的憎恨注入/組成 = 虐待 = (我們真的)徹底搞砸了/一團糟.


28/07/2008 17:58:38 ‹Mykey› lol - shit, purpose a tough one, I'd suggest making sure you don't exist for or within a purpose/reason, otherwise that which you 'lived' for connected to the purpose/reason will be taken away = I've experienced that - not necessary - lol
28/07/2008 17:58:38 ‹Mykey› lol - 麻煩/砸了, 目的(Purpose), 是一個很棘手的點, 我會建議你確保, 自己不要為/活在某種(特定)的目的/原因而活, 否則與你為這個目的/原因而活, 跟它有關的所有一切, 都會從你身邊被除去 = 我有過這種經歷 - 毫無必要的 - lol


26/07/2008 19:25:54 ‹Bernard› What is HERE is ALWAYS HERE
19:26:16 ‹Bernard› what is NOT HERE--never exist
26/07/2008 19:27:04 ‹Bernard› Personality is NOT HERE
19:27:33 ‹Bernard› Breathe MAY assist to SEE what is NOT HERE
26/07/2008 19:28:07 ‹Bernard› But even BREATHE is NOT HERE
19:28:36 ‹Bernard› Time is not HERE
26/07/2008 19:29:01 ‹Bernard› but the TEST OF TIME may reveal HERE
19:29:18 ‹Bernard› HERE is not FORM
26/07/2008 19:29:27 ‹Bernard› yet Form may be found here
19:30:17 ‹Bernard› thus INFORMATION that comes from NOWHERE is ALWAYS lost
26/07/2008 19:35:55 ‹Bernard› KNOWLEDGE are NEVER HERE
19:36:03 ‹Bernard› HERE cannot be TAUGHT
26/07/2008 19:36:17 ‹Bernard› HERE cannot be THOUGHT

26/07/2008 20:03:15 ‹Bernard› END OF TIME is HERE
26/07/2008 20:03:36 ‹Bernard› HERE is END OF TIME
26/07/2008 20:03:51 ‹Bernard› HERE ends TIME

26/07/2008 20:04:11 ‹Bernard› ALARMING TIMESaHEAD
20:04:31 ‹Bernard› WAKE UP from TIME


26/07/2008 19:25:54 ‹Bernard› 在 "這裏(HERE)"的 "永遠都在這裏(HERE)存在"
26/07/2008 19:26:16 ‹Bernard› "不在/屬於這裏(HERE)"的 -- 從來都沒有存在過
26/07/2008 19:27:04 ‹Bernard› 性格(Personality) "不在/屬於這裏(HERE)"
26/07/2008 19:27:33 ‹Bernard› 呼吸 "或許能夠" 協助你 "看到" 什麼東西 "不在/屬於這裏(HERE)"
26/07/2008 19:28:07 ‹Bernard› 但是甚至連 呼吸(BREATHE) 也不在/屬於這裏(HERE)的
26/07/2008 19:28:36 ‹Bernard› 時間不在/屬於 "這裏(HERE)"
26/07/2008 19:29:01 ‹Bernard› 但是 "時間可以揭露/証明"誰/什麼在/屬於 "這裏(HERE)"
26/07/2008 19:29:18 ‹Bernard› 這裏(HERE) 不是/不等同 形態(FORM)
26/07/2008 19:29:27 ‹Bernard› 然而我們在這裏, 有機會找到形態(的存在)
26/07/2008 19:30:17 ‹Bernard› 因此沒有結果/無中生有(NOW HERE)的 "資料/資訊(IN FORM ATION)永遠" 都會令你迷失
26/07/2008 19:35:55 ‹Bernard› 智識/學識(KNOWLEDGE) "永遠都不在/屬於這裏(HERE)"
26/07/2008 19:36:03 ‹Bernard› "你不可能透過學習", 逹到 "這裏(HERE)"
26/07/2008 19:36:17 ‹Bernard› "你不可能透過思考/念頭(THOUGHT)", 逹到 "這裏(HERE)"

26/07/2008 20:03:15 ‹Bernard› "當時間結束後(END OF TIME)" 就是/在 "這裏(HERE)"
26/07/2008 20:03:36 ‹Bernard› "這裏(HERE)" 就是 "時間的終點"
26/07/2008 20:03:51 ‹Bernard› "這裏(HERE)" 終止 "時間(TIME)"(的延續)

26/07/2008 20:04:11 ‹Bernard› 未來將會是告急/令人擔憂(ALARMING TIMES)的日子
26/07/2008 20:04:31 ‹Bernard› 趕快從 "時間(TIME)中醒覺"


25/06/2008 18:24:41 ‹Bernard› understand that the existence as dimensions--thus as heaven--was a state of thought-- a state of mind where incarnations used to hapen equal and one
25/06/2008 18:25:09 ‹Bernard› then some wanted to be god--and then started directing existence for their benefit only

25/06/2008 18:24:41 ‹Bernard› 要明白存在就像維度(世界) -- 因此即是像天界一樣 -- 那時候是一種處於念頭(Thought)的狀態 -- 處於一種投胎是以平等一体的方式運行的心智狀態, 後來某些人想成為神 -- 並且開始把存在, 引導向完全只為了(增加)他們個人的利己利益方向走


24/06/2008 21:30:55 ‹Bernard› breath deedra AND SEE WHAT IS REALLY HERE AND WHAT DEFINE YOU THAT DEATH WILL REMOVE
24/06/2008 21:31:11 ‹Bernard› BECAUSE AS LONG AS DEATH CAN REMOVE SOMETHING--YOU ARE ENSLAVED

24/06/2008 21:30:55 ‹Bernard› 呼吸 Deedra "並且看一看在這裏(HERE), 裏面有什麼是真正存在的? 和你用了些什麼東西, 是死亡能夠從你身上删除的, 來定義了自己? 因為只要死亡一天還能夠從(你)身上删除 -- 你依然是一個被奴役着的奴隸"


24/06/2008 21:35:53 ‹Bernard› lloyd--the self forgiveness is a tool--the self honesty is self realization--thus all that is required
24/06/2008 21:35:53 ‹Bernard› Lloyd -- 自我寬恕是一件工具 -- 自我誠實是一種自我察覺 -- 因此, (你)只需要這兩件東就行了


22/06/2008 23:05:23 ‹Bernard› ricardo--self honesty is self--careful when it become knowledge--no longer self honesty

23:06:12 ‹Bernard› no one but self will ever reveal self honesty--because self must reveal it

22/06/2008 23:05:23 ‹Bernard› Ricardo -- 自我誠實是(指)自己 -- 要當心它變成了知識(Knowledge)後 -- 就不再是自我誠實了
23:06:12 ‹Bernard› 除了自己以外, 永遠沒有人能夠為你揭露, 什麼是自我誠實 -- 因為它必需由你自己, 顯露給自己看, 什麼是自我誠實?


18:29:08 ‹Veno› AP - you're not going to understand common sense according to another's experience thereof within which you form an idea of what it might be - common sense stand within and as self honesty as self - you will express common sense as you in self honest expression

18:29:08 ‹Veno› AP - 你不可能跟據其他人的体驗, 並且從中形成了一個, 它應該是什麼一回事的概念後, 就能夠瞭解常識(Common Sense) - 常識在, 並且即是自我誠實, 它在你裏面 - 當你自我誠實地表現時, 你就會表現出常識


17:30:43 ‹Mykey› Bella - self expression is 'who I am' in every moment, I'd say self expression is when you stop, stand up and move you
17:30:43 ‹Mykey› Bella - 自我表現的意思是, 我在每刻裏 "我是一個什麼樣的人"? 我會說當你停止, 站起來並且推動自己的時候, 就是(你的)自我表現


18/06/2008 18:19:31 ‹Sarah› The physical body, you the being and the mind is one here - this process for and of each one is to actually birth you as life from the physical here
18/06/2008 18:21:06 ‹Sarah› Life in and as physicality here - no more mind in and as physicality here through which you exist, because in you as life in and as physicality: I express, I direct, I move - no more the mind doing it for you / anyone else


18/06/2008 18:19:31 ‹Sarah› 物質性身体, 你作為一個存有(Being), 和心智(3者)在這裏是一体的 - 這個和每個人的進程, 都是為了從在這裏(Here)的物質性, 把你真正誕生出來成為生命
18/06/2008 18:21:06 ‹Sarah› 在和成為/活在這裏的物質性裏面, 成為它的一份子 - 不再透過活在心智裏面, 而是透過成為在這裏的物質性存活, 因為在你成為生命, 在並且成為物質性了以後: 我表現, 我主導, 我推動自己 - 不再由心智/任何人代替你指揮自己


18/06/2008 18:29:55 ‹Sarah› No Terri, time is determined according to mind where the past is stored as memory which manifest the future in the present - past, present future, the now of consciousness = the construct of time/the illusion of time, see in breathe here as self, no time exists, because all of self is HERE

18/06/2008 18:32:25 ‹Sarah› understand Terri, we're still in this existence, this unified field manifested as 'time' - though it is for self to not exist of time, to stop the existence of time as past present and future and so stop the continuation of the unified field -this done through living HERE as breath where all of self as self is HERE - here in and as breath where no time exist = timelessness

18/06/2008 18:29:55 ‹Sarah› Terri 不, 時間是跟據心智來運作的, 當中過去(Past)以記億的形式儲存, (目的是為了)在現在(Present), 顯現(Manifest)未來(Future) - 過去, 現在, 未來, 屬於意識的現在 = 時間的結構/時間的幻覺/假像, 看一看當你成為在呼吸這裏時, 在這裏時間不會存在, 因為所有的自己, 都已經全部在 "這裏(HERE)"

18/06/2008 18:32:25 ‹Sarah› Terri 要明白, 我們仍然活在這個存在, 這個(現時)以 "時間"形式顯現的統一場裏面 - 不過, 我們的目標, 是為了令自己不再為(延續)時間而存活, 為了制止時間, 即是過去, 現在, 未來的形式延續下去, 就這樣制止統一場的延續 - 這是透過活在 "這裏(HERE)", 變成呼吸, 當中所有的自己全部都回來, (合一)成為(你)自己, 在/處於 "這裏(HERE)" - (當你)在/處於這裏, 和成為呼吸時, 是不會有時間存在的 = 永恒/不受時間影響(Timelessness)


23:30:07 ‹Bernard› design DIRECT as HERE--there is ONLY here
23:30:57 ‹Bernard› any form of exitement--it is mind terri--there must be no energy movement in the here asking of self equal and one
23:32:19 ‹Bernard› see terri--even that is separation--there must be no change before or after--because then it is an altered state of awareness and is mind
23:32:58 ‹Bernard› and understand mind is all that is here as man and consciousness as all knowledge--it expects equality in all ways--or will enslave

23:30:07 ‹Bernard› 把 "直接(DIRECT)" 設計/設定為 "這裏(HERE)" -- (一直以來) "只有" 這裏(真正存在)
23:30:57 ‹Bernard› 不管什麼形式/形態的興奮 -- 都是/屬於心智的東西 Terri -- (你)必需沒有任何能量移動/波動下, 在這裏, 追求(Asking of)自己, 平等一体
23:32:19 ‹Bernard› 看一看 Terri -- 即使這樣也屬於分離 -- 在事前和事後, 在整個過程中, 你都必定不可以有任何改變 -- 因為如果你出現改變/波動的話, 這就變成了一種經過修改, 並且屬於心智的察覺性(Awareness)
23:32:58 ‹Bernard› 並且要明白, 心智它在這裏, 即是只不過作為人類和意識, 即是所有的知識(Knowledge)而言 -- 它要求全面平等 -- 否則它會奴役(你)


23:59:18 ‹Bernard› terri--the HoM series is to attarct people to assist--it is a version of reality--there are many--i depends who tell the story
23:59:34 ‹Bernard› in the videos are placed support to common sense and self honesty
23:59:56 ‹Bernard› the knowledge--let it go unconditionally and live in breath as common sense
00:00:34 ‹Bernard› Understand--we started the hom series at the point relevant to this process

23:59:18 ‹Bernard› Terri -- 人類歷史系列(HoM Series) 是為了吸引更多人來參與協助 -- 它是現實的其中一個版本 -- 還有很多其他版本 -- 視乎故事由誰來主講而定
23:59:34 ‹Bernard› 在視頻裏面, 配置了支援(發展)常識(Common Sense), 和自我誠實(Self Honesty)的元素
23:59:56 ‹Bernard› 知識(Knowledge) -- 無條件地放開它們, 並且活在呼吸裏, 成為(運用)常識
00:00:34 ‹Bernard› 要明白 -- 我們在這個進程中, 是在最適當的時候才開始/上傳人類歷史系列的


00:02:17 ‹Bernard› yes terri--the key in each is common sense--find the common sense in the video and you will accellerate
00:02:17 ‹Bernard› 對 Terri -- 每個人的關鍵就是常識(Common Sense) -- 找出在視頻中的常識, 那麼你就會縮短(走進程的時間)
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24/07/2008 19:09:19 ‹Osho› Terri - interdimensionally you don't have the physical to assist and support you - the physical the greatest gift imaginable and you realise this when in the dimensions how much you've taken what is here as the physical for granted

24/07/2008 19:09:19 ‹奧修› Terri - 在跨次元/維度世界裏, 你沒有物質性身体的支援和協助 - 物質性, 這是有史以來最偉大, 完全超乎你所有想像的禮物, 當你死後, 過渡到了維度世界那邊時, 你就會察覺到自己(在世時), 多麼視在這裏(Here)的物質性/身体, 為理所當然/不予重視的一件事.


24/07/2008 19:23:20 ‹Osho› laziness will make you time-loop again and again, until the fore of you will force you to stand up forcably = wouldn't suggest that route though
24/07/2008 19:23:20 ‹奧修› 懶惰會令你無間斷地, 一直不斷地時間-循環又循環(Time-Loop), 一直到你裏面的動力, 肯(用在自己身上)推動/強迫自己站起來為止 = 不過, (我)不建議任何人選擇這條路


ch_My room 19/07/2008 16:24:44 Bernard Aldin--I note you tend to jump into expression before you BREATH--then you end up choking a bit--slow down--breath then express and you will find it supportive and directive
ch_My room 19/07/2008 16:26:18 Bernard Another suggestion Aldin--when expressing breath with rhythmn --like assertive base support--then flow with it
ch_My room 19/07/2008 16:47:47 Bernard the scorpion holds the construct of the story of the frog and the scorpion--the nature of trust in the system
ch_My room 19/07/2008 16:49:11 Bernard memories are never real ricardo--it is how thought produce system markers
ch_My room 19/07/2008 16:50:12 Bernard lots to understand when HERe

ch_My room 19/07/2008 16:24:44 Bernard Aldin -- 我發覺你經常有種, 在還未 "呼吸"前, 就已經跳進了表現/表逹(Expression)的傾向 -- 然後最終你變得有點嗆住/說不出話來(Choking) -- 減慢下來 -- 先呼吸, 然後才表現/表逹, 你會發現它能夠協助你, 和令你更具主導力(Directive)

ch_My room 19/07/2008 16:26:18 Bernard 另一個建議 Aldin -- 當表現/表逹時, 有節奏感地呼吸 -- 像(對自己有了)堅定自信的基礎支持(Assertive Base Support) -- 然後與它一起流暢地表現/表逹(自己)

ch_My room 19/07/2008 16:47:47 Bernard 青蛙與蠍子, 故事中的蠍子支撑着整個寓言故事的結構 -- 即是在系統裏, 相信別人的真本質/真面目
ch_My room 19/07/2008 16:49:11 Bernard 記億從來都不是真的 Ricardo -- 它是念頭(Thought)透過它, 用來記錄系統記號/里程碑(System Markers)的東西
ch_My room 19/07/2008 16:50:12 Bernard 當你是/在 "這裏/這邊(HERe)"的時候, 還有很多東西等着你去瞭解它們


13/07/2008 17:41:59 ‹Jack&Ruby› because it is not I am here = it is i am HERE

13/07/2008 17:43:04 ‹Jack&Ruby› In defining you as I - this manifest personality / identity = because HERE is everything, and everything is HERE - so, i am HERE, thus everything = yet nothing, no identity/personality exist HERE

13/07/2008 17:43:37 ‹Jack&Ruby› HERE is everywhere, and everywhere is HERE

13/07/2008 17:45:21 ‹Jack&Ruby› because I is an personality/identification of 'who you are' - if 'who you are' is here = then it is 'who you are' that shape/manifest reality, because who you are always confirm to you who you are

13/07/2008 17:45:47 ‹Jack&Ruby› when who you are confirm to you who you are = this is the deception

17:46:28 ‹Jack&Ruby› so nothing of who you are must exist = otherwise here is 'who you are' and you are in separation as HERE

13/07/2008 17:47:08 ‹Jack&Ruby› it is not 'who i am' here - it is i am HERE

13/07/2008 17:50:26 ‹Jack&Ruby› HERE catherine - no problems exist, as the solution is HERE - no I exist HERE = because everything is HERE

13/07/2008 17:53:17 ‹Jack&Ruby› lol solmaz - just being something means nothing - you have to 'naturally direct HERE practically'


13/07/2008 17:41:59 ‹Jack&Ruby› 因為, 不是我在這裏(I am here) = 我是 "這裏(HERE)"(I am HERE)

13/07/2008 17:43:04 ‹Jack&Ruby› 當你定義了自己是一個 "我(I)"的時候 - 此舉會顯現性格(Personality)/個体身份(Identity) = 因為 "這裏(HERE)"就是所有一切, 而所有一切都在 "這裏(HERE)" - 所以, 我是 "這裏(HERE)", 因此所有一切 = 然而亦沒有任何東西, (即是)沒有任何個体身份/性格, 都在 "這裏(HERE)"存在.

13/07/2008 17:43:37 ‹Jack&Ruby› "這裏(HERE)"是無處不在的, 而且不管你在任何什麼地方, 它都屬於/是 "這裏(HERE)"(裏面)

13/07/2008 17:45:21 ‹Jack&Ruby› 因為你用了 "我"是一個性格/個別身份, 來定義 "自己是誰?" - 如果你用這裏(現時的一切), 來定義 "自己是誰?"的話 = 那麼就變成了(跟據) "你(現時)是誰/是什麼?" 來顯現/形成現實, 因為你(實際上)是誰/是什麼? 永遠就是/跟據你(覺得)自己是誰/是什麼形成/反顯(給你看的)

13/07/2008 17:45:47 ‹Jack&Ruby› 當因為你(現時)是誰/是什麼? 那麼你就(遵從)自己是誰/是什麼的時候 = 這/你是在欺騙自己

13/07/2008 17:46:28 ‹Jack&Ruby› 所以在你的 "我是誰/是什麼"裏面, 不能夠有任何定義存在 = 否則在這裏(的一切), (反過來)變成/定義了 "你是誰/是什麼(Who You are)", 這樣你與 "這裏(HERE)"就分離了

13/07/2008 17:47:08 ‹Jack&Ruby› 不是 "我在這裏(Here)是誰/是什麼" - 是我是 "這裏(HERE)"


13/07/2008 17:50:26 ‹Jack&Ruby› 在 "這裏(HERE)" Catherine - 不會有問題存在, 因為解決方法就是/在 "這裏(HERE)" - 不, 我在 "這裏(HERE)"存在 = 因為所有一切, 都是/在 "這裏(HERE)"

13/07/2008 17:53:17 ‹Jack&Ruby› lol Solmaz - 純綷(在這裏)逹到了某個境界是毫無意義/價值的 - 你必需 '從容/本能地(Naturally)實際地指揮(Direct) "這裏(HERE)"'


8:02:24 ‹Jack&Ruby› lol Andrew - we'll expand on this - though primarily realise that nothing of 'who you are' must exist, meaning no personality/identification of / as self = an total re-start must occur = in this you'll realise, I'm still here

13/07/2008 18:03:50 ‹Jack&Ruby› nope, the fear exist because you've separated yourself - fear exist within personality design, so in walking through the process of going to see a doctor - you're 'removing personality designs' / identifications of you


8:02:24 ‹Jack&Ruby› lol Andrew - 我們在將來會再詳細解釋這點的 - 然而主要是你需要察覺, 不能夠用任何東西, 來定義 "自己是誰/是什麼", 意思是不能夠用自己(Self)的性格/個体身份, 來定義/作為自己 = 你必需經歷一次完全重-啓(自己) = 當中你會察覺, 我(重-啓後)仍然在這裏

13/07/2008 18:03:50 ‹Jack&Ruby› 不, 害怕之所以存在, 是因為你與自己分離了 - 害怕在性格設計裏面存在, 所以當你走這個去看醫生給你診症的進程時 - 你就是在 "去除你的各種性格設計/個体身份"


<Sunette/Jack?>
*Here is always equal and one to who you are

Here is thus always the result of who we are

Here forms always who we are

You can never be more than who you are - i am HERE, HERE i am - you cannot be more than HERE = because HERE is HERE

It's not I here, here I AM = this is personality, design and limitation - designing you as a personality as I AM as a definition of 'who you are' limiting you HERE

everything is HERE - i am HERE

If HERE is not understood, you're eternally fucked as the I am

If HERE is not self, self does not exist = because self is just a projection as perception of HERE


*Here is the mirror in which the IMAGE of self reflects as NOW/Consciousness

thus

Here always confirm self to self--unless self change--nothing change

and unless self is all equal and one in fact here--self is just an image in a mirror


<Sunette/Jack?>

* 這裏(Here)永遠就是你是誰/是什麼(Who you are), (兩者)是平等一体的

因此這裏(Here), 永遠都你是誰/是什麼的結果/反顯

(你允許在)這裏(Here)的, 永遠都會變成/形成你是誰/是什麼

你永遠都無可能超過(More than)你是誰/是什麼? - 我是 "這裏(HERE)", "這裏(HERE)"便是我 - 你無可能超過 "這裏(HERE)" = 因為 "這裏(HERE)" 是(已經/永遠在) "這裏(HERE)"

並不是我(在)這裏, 在這裏 "我是(I AM)"(誰/什麼) = 這是性格, 設計和限制 - 把你設計成為一個性格, 變成了把 "我是(I AM)", 作為 "你是誰/是什麼"的定義, 是把(實際上你是) "這裏(HERE)"的你局限了, 所有一切都是這裏 - 我是 "這裏(HERE)"


如果你沒有瞭解清楚 "這裏(HERE)", 你肯定會因為 "我是"(的個体身份)而被搞砸了

如果 "這裏(HERE)"不是自己(Self), 自己就不存在 = 因為自己(現在)純綷變成了一個倒影, 一個你對 "這裏(HERE)"的理解/看法而産生的倒影而已

* 這裏(Here)變成了一面, 反射你作為 "現在/意識(NOW/Consiousness)"影像/倒影, 的鏡子

因此

這裏(Here)永遠都跟據自己(是誰/是什麼), 它就會變成什麼 -- 除非(你)改變自己 -- (否則這裏)不會出現任何改變

而且除非所有的自己(Self), 全部都在這裏真正處於平等一体 -- (否則)自己純綷只是鏡子裏面的倒影罷了


13/07/2008 18:11:50 ‹Jack&Ruby› and life is HERE

13/07/2008 18:12:51 ‹Jack&Ruby› so if self exist - self is not HERE and thus self is but a projection of here

13/07/2008 18:16:18 ‹Jack&Ruby› reality is HERE - how reality is shaped is by self = yes

13/07/2008 18:17:46 ‹Jack&Ruby› self forgiveness - you apply to stop the identities and personalities and design to which you have defined who you are - so that who you are no more exist - but self realise HERE


13/07/2008 18:11:50 ‹Jack&Ruby› 而且生命是/屬於 "這裏(HERE)"

13/07/2008 18:12:51 ‹Jack&Ruby› 所以如果自己(Self)存在的話 - 自己就不是 "這裏(HERE)" - 因此自己(變成了)純綷只是這裏(Here)的一個投射/倒影

13/07/2008 18:16:18 ‹Jack&Ruby› 現實是/屬於 "這裏(HERE)" - (即是)現實, 它的怎樣形成, 是由自己造成的 = 對

13/07/2008 18:17:46 ‹Jack&Ruby› 自我寬恕應用 - 是你為了停止各種個体身份(Identities), 和性格, 和設計, 這些你一直用來定義了自己是誰/是什麼? - 好讓你是誰/是什麼不再存在 - 而是實現/察覺(Realize)自己(是) "這裏(HERE)"
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